FEEDBACK WANTED: New Resource Toolbar on Desktop

Maintenance would be just as "massive" if the interface is restricted to subscribers. If it will be withheld from non-subscribers then you may as well have an option for subscribers to switch.

How will you respond to the TOC lag issue in v35, or other issues that will arise with the "non-subscriber" interface? I note that the lag is minimal, but still noticeable, compared to tabs without TOC  in the "subscriber" interface.

I ran a search which generated results in my NRSV but the step size menu did not update to show the search results option. I had to close and reopen to get the search result option to show.

The Full Screen button has the same text in it both when I am and when I am not in full screen mode - I would expect the text to toggle between full screen and "previous size"

I do not like "Find" being orphaned in the panel menu. It belongs in the resource menu.

I would like to see the equivalency function preserved by the creation of shared collections set for parallel resources with titles beginning with EQUIVALENT. It would set the stage for Logos to claim to consider carefully the functionality being removed and how to replicate that functionality going forward.

Summary of requests and bug requests to aid in further testing

1. Mac specific: 

Jonathan Huber said:

I wonder whether it could be a more efficient use of space to put any of this up into the menu bar (I'm on a Mac.)

2. Either already present or a request to completely slide under the tab: 

Paul said:

Making this a collapsable bar would be nice, like the location bar.

3. Lost features some with extended discussions: 

Graham Criddle said:

a) Show Inline Search (Ctrl/Cmd-F)

b) Some of the panel copy options - I can see Copy as URL but not HTML, L4, WIKI, RL  (I know this has been mentioned in previous feedback in this thread). I remember a discussion about some of these going, are they being deprecated

c) Help features - Help about this feature, discuss this feature, show help card

4. Location of Help 

MJ. Smith said:

The Help Center function should be up a level - it is needed for all sub-toolbars not just the main one.

5. Interlinear pane data selection location: 

MJ. Smith said:

I would like to see the selection of elements shown in the interlinear pane changed to be the same method that is used for the inline interlinear.

6. Duration of popup: 

MJ. Smith said:

Am I the only one who clicks new and has the popup disappear before I can click "here"?

7. Title of "new" popup: 

Antony Brennan said:

The popup should be changed to read "Click to share your thoughts."  No matter how quick I am I cannot click on the underlined here 

8. Collapsible notebooks list likely applicable to other lists: 

Graham Criddle said:

Can we have the option to collapse the set of in-version notebooks so it is easier to get to this second set?

And, as far as I can see, even when the corresponding set is enabled, the icon does not show it and it isn't possible to see / select / deselect the list of included notebooks

9. Reading list support: 

MJ. Smith said:

Where is the support for reading lists in the copy links function?

10. location of functions: 

John Goodman said:

I'm not sure the location of reading plans makes sense.

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Separating formatting and view feels confusing because both change what you are seeing. These also tend to be what I change the most. Showing and hiding discourse features or interlinear features etc. I wonder if interlinear belongs with the formatting really?

Ideally I'd like to be able to prioritise a couple of configurations... I like using left and right arrows to switch between Bibles... it would actually make my study easier to be able to switch between 3 different views of the ESV that way too.

11. Copy special: 

NB.Mick said:

It was confusing to me that there is now a Copy Special that allows the reference link to be copied as link, plain text or search parameter (a functionality still existing in the context menu under reference), but this appears only in bibles, not in other datatype-indexed books like commentaries or e.g. The Book of Concord. If you still are deciding about that: I like seeing this in the main toolbar, but please leave the button visible all times instead of not showing it - and make it available in all indexed resources. But in the interest of saving space, this is not a must-have if you keep it in the context menu.  

12. Menu malfunction: 

Ali Pope said:

Morgan said:

One small frustration, clicking on Content and Favorites opens and closes the menu as expected. For any other menu to close you have to click outside of the menu somewhere.E.g. I can't just click "History" twice to open and close it.

This will be fixed as part of our polishing work.

13. Tab to reference box 

Gregory Lawhorn said:

The inability to reach the Navigation Box with a keystroke is going to slow down my sermon prep this week. 

Can we get the keyboard shortcut (preferably Tab) back for the Navigation Box, and soon?

Ali Pope said:

The tab key and CMD-G/CTRL-G shortcut will be a part of the polish work we do in the coming weeks.

14.  Inline search capabilities return a major issue: 

Morgan said:

Are there plans to include search fields for inline search?

15. Send to various documents:

Ali Pope said:

Donovan R. Palmer said:

Also, further to my above post, is there a way in this new toolbar to send search results to word lists, the search panel, etc...? 

Word Lists, Visual Filters and Bibliographies will be added to the new Send to menu in the Share tab as part of our polishing work in the coming weeks. 

When you create a search result in inline search, go to the Share tab, click the Send to menu and you'll see the option to send to the search panel.

16. Preserve last state of menus: 

Kevin said:

Please respect the selected / unselected menu state of the resource when closed.

17. Morph attribute selection menu error: 

Graham Criddle said:

I was experimenting with using morph searches in the new inline search and noted that the picker doesn't update the search string as you choose morph options

18. Option to retain static resource panel menu: 

Ali Pope said:

Frank Sauer said:

I had submitted the question of whether there would be an option to keep the traditional toolbar via Settings

We noted your suggestion back in the web app thread and appreciate your feedback. Unfortunately, we won't be able to implement this in the foreseeable future given the massive amount of work/time it would take to build and maintain.

19. Add keyboard shortcuts often mentioned in connection with other features: 

Pitrell said:

Please add shortcuts. As a non-English speaking user, the translation panel is my daily (!) companion and it would be nice to be able to open and close it as quickly as possible.

20. Customizable and other enhancements: 

Michael Licina Jr. said:

• ...Could we make the toolbar more customizable so power users can make this toolbar match their needs, while giving the most commonly-used options as default for those users who are less experienced with Logos?
• I would like to see integrations with other Logos tools via the toolbar. Some of these, such as notes and canvas, are already present. Why not have a "documents" tab that functions for any document type? Or a "guides" tab that can be used to start a workflow or open a guide?

21. Updating navigation unit delayed: 

MJ. Smith said:

I ran a search which generated results in my NRSV but the step size menu did not update to show the search results option. I had to close and reopen to get the search result option to show.

22. Location of "other" option on media: 

MJ. Smith said:

Just a think about ... "other" is usually the end of a list ... if you've read through the list and not found what you want you check "other". I realize these are in alphabetical order but is that actually best in this case?

23. Full screen option name does not toggle: 

MJ. Smith said:

The Full Screen button has the same text in it both when I am and when I am not in full screen mode - I would expect the text to toggle between full screen and "previous size"

24. Visual filter navigation enhancement: 

MJ. Smith said:

Suggested improvement to visual filter navigation:

When navigating to the next selected text of a visual filter, it would be helpful to be able to set an option to:

1. go to the next selected text of any filter(s) - the current behavior
2. go to the next selected text in the same filter
3. go to the next selected text in the same style (i.e. rule and filter match)

25. Location of Find: 

MJ. Smith said:

I do not like "Find" being orphaned in the panel menu. It belongs in the resource menu.

26. Limitation of right-click history display: 

MJ. Smith said:

I was surprised/displeased when the history immediately before the reference box required that I use the active (not grayed out) caret to right click to get the history. I would expect either caret to always give me the history menu.

27. Equivalent function retention via collections: 

MJ. Smith said:

I would like to see the equivalency function preserved by the creation of shared collections set for parallel resources with titles beginning with EQUIVALENT. It would set the stage for Logos to claim to consider carefully the functionality being removed and how to replicate that functionality going forward.

Added:

28. Behavior of New flag; 

MJ. Smith said:

The New option with its link to provide feedback disappears in a narrow pane rather than slipping under more or shorting the option list to retain its position.

29. History menu not usable: 

MJ. Smith said:

This bug directly affects the usability of the Resource panel toolbar -->Home --> History menu and Resource panel toolbar --> right click History menu. No difference in values is visible.

30. Emphasis menu working correctly?: 

MJ. Smith said:

Is the Emphasis menu truly dynamic? I can't get the corresponding words to work. As any enhancement it would be useful to have a current Factbook entry following the Current dictionary entry.

31. Multi-page parallel resource menu: 

MJ. Smith said:

When using the parallel resources menu, when there are two pages, changing the page closes the menu and requires an re-open to show the requested page.

32.  Return Help card: 

MJ. Smith said:

Please return the Help card ... it is very useful in teaching application where one needs a sentence or two of explanation not a 5 minute video or 2 minute reading break.

33.  Navigation of inline search results: 

Marco Ceccarelli said:

I find the new Inline search more complicated than before. For instance I don't see the usual up and down arrows to look at the results

34. Factbook tag failure: 

MJ. Smith said:

not only is there no factbook tag option, but when one tries to add Factbook tags the option and the value appear to work but they don't create the Factbook tag.

I'll use this to remember what to test in the next iteration - just thought a few others might find it useful.

The New option with its link to provide feedback disappears in a narrow pane rather than slipping under more or shorting the option list to retain its position. Note this is on a Logos supplied layout.

Is the Emphasis menu truly dynamic? I can't get the corresponding words to work. As any enhancement it would be useful to have a current Factbook entry following the Current dictionary entry.

Please return the Help card ... it is very useful in teaching application where one needs a sentence or two of explanation not a 5 minute video or 2 minute reading break.

Marco Ceccarelli said:

For instance I don't see the usual up and down arrows to look at the results

They are under home. You may wish to request that they also be under search.

Marco Ceccarelli said:

Under Home there is no Inline Search

No but the navigation arrows for next/previous results are there.

Hi Mark

Mark Barnes (Logos) said:

Thanks for the feedback on inline search. Is the primary issue the lack of the fields picker? Typically, how would you use this picker for inline search?

For me, it would include the search fields but also the lack of ability to select different types of Inline Search (particularly Book) and not being able to navigate through search results from within the search "view"

I gave an example of where I might use the search fields in https://community.logos.com/forums/p/224537/1309861.aspx#1309861 

And the issue of not being able to specify a Book Search - when in a Bible - means that any searches are constrained to a single verse and not the entire chapter.