Official: Early access updates and subscription pricing

 In addition to offering monthly and annual terms, you’ll also be able to pay for two years of an annual subscription upfront. This will be a great opportunity to lock in your subscription price for two years and automatically qualify for the Legacy Fallback License (if you own a Logos base package). For example, if you pay for two years upfront in October 2024, your subscription will not renew until October 2026, at which point your subscription will renew at the annual rate. Our annual terms give you the equivalent of 2 months free, and the two-year upfront option provides 5 months free.

Great news.   

When I initially subscribed during the early access there was no two year option. When the new subscriptions come online will I be able to extend my subscription to the two year subscription?

This gives me a lot to think about. Thank you!

Having already paid for a year of Logos Max when it became available, how can I add the 2nd year?  It appears paying upfront for two years is cheaper and locks in the price.

Thank you for the updated information regarding the subscriptions.

I have to go back to a question I asked in another thread though that I never did get an answer to from Faithlife, and it's a legitimate question.  This applies to those like myself that are Logos 10 full feature set owners who don't want the A.I. features, don't want the rented books, can honestly care less about the 5% discounts, don't care about the extra free book per month, don't want the available courses in the subscriptions, etc.  In light of these things, why should we risk paying for a subscription for 2 years (whether upfront or spread out) to get keepable features that fall under the Legacy Fallback License, when we don't know in advance what every single one of those keepable features are?  I ask this not only to get an answer to the question, but also because to have a deadline to choose to pay for a discounted subscription, in light of everything I've mentioned, just doesn't look right, and it brings the risk of buyer's remorse (imagine spending a lot of money for what you don't know specifically what you're paying for).

Thanks for getting this out.  I too have already paid for my first year and am ready to extend to the second as soon at it is available.

Have you managed to make a decision about where subscriptions like my Logos 10 Academic Standard falls on the Bronze/Silver/Full feature hierarchy with regards to discounts? 

To be entirely open, the question is probably just a matter of personal curiosity at this point since this whole, protracted process has left me thinking I'm probably better off just sticking with what I have until I have an actual, rather than a potential, need for any of the new stuff. If there had been a clear proposal up front I would gladly have looked at it, but I don't have the time to invest in all these mammoth threads.

That said, it would be interesting to know just where I stand in the new order.

Will Verbum pricing be the same?

KSC

On the topic of perks, we shared in prior posts about a 5% reward coupon that’s based on your previous year’s spend. If you’ve already started a subscription, we’re showing our appreciation by retroactively starting the 5% annual reward clock to the date your Pro or Max subscription started. 

Quick question on this. Does this also apply to those of us who had Pro added to our Faithlife connect subscription? Does the 5% start when that happened last month or so? As connect subscribers we were told to hold the line and wait for conversion.

If for example we pay for Premium by 2 years up front payment, can we then later upgrade with dynamic pricing prior to the end of the 2 years, in order to qualify for legacy fallback features that are later released for Pro and Max?

Is the "2 years paid upfront" option a one-time thing reserved for full feature set owners looking to acquire the LFL? Or will it be an ongoing option that can be renewed and is available to all customers?

Will theology students get an academic discount?

And second question, I'm French, I like to have books in French and English, but I don't know if I should wait for the French or English release depending on the books and the accumulation of the two...

So can I still get in on the $99/yr pricing for Logos Pro now before 10/4?

Question:

Can Logos merely add an extension option to the existing 1 year plans in effect?  It may actually be less programming.

Also, whatever the solution is, can L or FL post clearly on the main webpage what or where to go?  Users are getting skittery over the closing on 10 without knowing what to do for a two year option. ? I tried to extend my existing plan but the site does not allow it.  Merely adding an "Extend my Plan" button, then posting to handle it on the subscription screens of a users account may work.

Thanks for letting us know.

TK

Thanks for the update. You write, "We’re closing early access to our new subscriptions on October 4 to get everything prepped for when we fully launch subscriptions in the fall. If you’re already on early access, no action is required. Your subscription will continue without any interruption." 

I'm set up to pay $99.99 on Oct 3rd for Pro annual payment but want to change to $189.80 for two years. It doesn't look like that option will be set up by then. What should I do to make that change?

Also, I asked about the difference with Faithlife connect and was told that with a subscription there was not only a 5% reward coupon but also an additional 5% discount on purchases and a 4th extra free book of the month (not from the Classics series). Is this correct?  

Great! But what are the resources included in the Premium, Pro or Max? 

I received the email announcing this today. I was a Connect User from the start and Logos has seemingly done everything in its power to make the changeover to the new subscription model as pleasant an experience as possible. At every step they've gone beyond what I would have expected. Kudos to Mark and the rest of the team. For $30 more per year that what I was paying for Connect Essentials, I've got a more powerful Bible study tool and some serious upgrades. 

I received the email announcing this today. I was a Connect User from the start and Logos has seemingly done everything in its power to make the changeover to the new subscription model as pleasant an experience as possible. At every step they've gone beyond what I would have expected. Kudos to Mark and the rest of the team. For $30 more per year that what I was paying for Connect Essentials, I've got a more powerful Bible study tool and some serious upgrades. 

Quick glance this doesn't make sense.  You have premium, pro, and max

So the more I already have, the more I have to pay?

I understand we can still buy feature packages for Logos 10. My initial impression is that buying the feature upgrade to get a subscription discount is not worth it. It seems to make more sense to pay the two year subscription price, which then unlocks permanent features, rather than buy the feature upgrade and then pay the lower two year subscription price. Am I missing something or are others coming to the same conclusion?

Excited to experience new Logos Era.  One odd question, please.  What happens to "open pre-pubs?"  I have requested several which have been "in-production" since March 2023.  Still hoping these will remain on order and available soon as I do not understand what's taking so long.

Any information you can provide will be helpful.

Well, so much for Logos. Been a fun ride. I’ve used this software for many years and saying goodbye will not be easy. In this economy to ramp up a subscription service?! Really?! LOL… hope Logos10 and iOS will still work for a while. What a shame.

Taylor, this is simply great. The answer to this question may have been answered elsewhere and perhaps I forgot. I assume that MAX includes all previous tiers? If so, I will switch from PRO to MAX soonest! (When my wife finds out that I did I'll look like Beetle Bailey when Sarge got done with him. [:D]).

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I may have missed something here. Is this replacing Logos Pro early access?

So when I saw this, I have to say I was kinda bummed.  I spent money early in the month for Logos Bronze Feature Set after having Starter to take advantage of the Last Chance sale because it would give me a discount on premium subscription.  I was waiting to see what the regular prices would be to see if i'd rather just pay full price for the subscription or buy bronze and save on the subscription.  I ended up spending the money only to find out the next day that Logos was extending the sale and I felt slightly tricked into buying it on september 6 when i could've waited until the end of this month to make a more informed decision.  If Logos was going to extend the sale, why not just publish that up front.  I felt like I made a pressured decision.  I didn't think much of things after that until I saw this post and see that I spent about $180 to essentially save $2 / mo or worse yet $38 every 2 years.  basically, it would take me almost 10 years of my discount for bronze to recoup that.  It really took the wind out of my sails on this because I thought that the discount for logos 10 bronze owners would be much more significant than this and I feel like spending the last chance sale money was a poor investment.  If I had known these would be the prices, I think I would not have bought the bronze feature set.

I have seen that we will receive a 5% discount sitewide. I am in a free month trial currently. Will I see the 5% discount once I have paid for my subscription? Can you show us where that will be indicated, in our checkout page for instance?

If you’ve already started a subscription, we’re showing our appreciation by retroactively starting the 5% annual reward clock to the date your Pro or Max subscription started. 

I'm happy and grateful to receive this news. It was a question I had and was about to ask.

A few quick questions: 1. Are there any deadlines on getting in at these prices (especially for L10 users)? 2. Will these prices increase down the road (in the foreseeable future, for those of us who need to budget our expenses)? 3. If we signup for two years paid upfront, after two years, can we re-signup for two more years paid upfront if we desire to? 4. If we pay annually or two years paid upfront for a lower tier and decide to upgrade to a higher tier, can we upgrade and pay the difference for the higher tier?

How do I order?  

Thanks so much for your patience as we’ve been preparing for the new era of Logos! Today I’ve got two big updates to share with you:

• Early access is closing (and a thank you!)

• Pricing details

First, on early access:

We’re closing early access to our new subscriptions on October 4 to get everything prepped for when we fully launch subscriptions in the fall. If you’re already on early access, no action is required. Your subscription will continue without any interruption.

On the topic of perks, we shared in prior posts about a 5% reward coupon that’s based on your previous year’s spend. If you’ve already started a subscription, we’re showing our appreciation by retroactively starting the 5% annual reward clock to the date your Pro or Max subscription started. 

And now, about our subscription pricing details:

We wanted to honor those who've been loyal to Logos and keep to the spirit of dynamic pricing. This means all customers who own a base package will receive special pricing on our new subscriptions.

• Logos 10 owners, as we’ve already announced, will receive the best subscription prices based on the feature set they own. 

• Logos 10 owners will also receive a better price on any subscription where they don’t qualify for the Logos 10 price.

• Customers who own any base package (no matter which version or level) will also receive a better price. 

Here are the details:

 

In addition to offering monthly and annual terms, you’ll also be able to pay for two years of an annual subscription upfront. This will be a great opportunity to lock in your subscription price for two years and automatically qualify for the Legacy Fallback License (if you own a Logos base package). For example, if you pay for two years upfront in October 2024, your subscription will not renew until October 2026, at which point your subscription will renew at the annual rate. Our annual terms give you the equivalent of 2 months free, and the two-year upfront option provides 5 months free.

We're excited for you all to experience the next era of Logos as we get ready for launch and an extra big thank you to those who have been part of the early access program. Your feedback has been invaluable to us, and we don't take your time or trust for granted. 

Thanks Taylor for this information. The one observation I'd make is that some of us may have spent a small fortune on resources without actually ever buying feature sets. I've spent well in excess of 5 figures and yet this doesn't count for anything in terms of subscription pricing. Perhaps this aspect could be considered. Certainly the subscription model is more attractive to me than the previous lump sum model.

How to get biannual subscription?

qualify for the Legacy Fallback License (if you own a Logos base package).

A base package does not mean just the Standard or faith-specific packages, right?  For example, the Discipleship packages are base packages as well?  

Discipleship also have a feature set, so it would also count under "any other Feature set"?

Will an academic discount be eligible for savings in a similar way to how there is a 30% discount on base packages offered?

How can I subscribe to Logos max 2 years??

Wim Nieuwenhuis

From November of 2023 until now, my total spend with Logos is more than the $4936 that would be required to equal 5% of the 2-year upfront Logos Max plan cost of $246.80.

Does that mean I will get a 2-year Logos Max subscription for free?  Does the excess get applied to future years, or how does that work?