When is the ESV Study Bible going to be available?
John, because it is in the pre-Pub program we do NOT know.
Anyone who tells you differently is just guessing.
This is a weakness of the Pre-pub program. I know folks respond that we should just have our money ready, but that is really NOT the point.
There presently isn't even a system to 'guess" although some try based on "UInder development" vs "Under Contract" as opposed to...?
Sorry.
Regards
Steve
PS
The point is, it is the nature of the publishing world and cannot be avoided.
I'm good with that. This is something REALLY worth waiting for. We have the print edition and even using the online version that the publisher provides has amazing reproducible resources for group study. LOGOS will make it even easier. Thanks LOGOS folks!
i am looking forward to the images being made available in the various logos media searches.
Hi Folks,
Just having trouble with my display name!
John,
We are currently planning to ship the ESV Study Bible on September 15, 2010.
Great news! Thank you!
As of today (August 4th), they are saying ship date is September 15, 2010.
Any chance of viewing some sample pages of ESV study Bible? Can't find any on Amazon (UK).
Hi Nicky,
You may have already seen this, but there is a dedicated website here:
http://www.esvstudybible.org/
You can read sample introductions to books of the bible and check out sample pages here:
http://www.esvstudybible.org/#features
It is well worth a look.
[Y]
ok Logos. We're ready. Flip the switch!
The ESV Study Bible & ESV Study Bible Notes are now live & available for download.
How big is the file?
Doc,
The ESV Study Bible is 275.79 Mb and the Study Bible Notes is 257 Mb
I bought it on pre-pub but it is not downloading. I guess I have to wait for the notice that the purchase has been processed?
Fred,
You do need to wait for email notification saying that the order was processed in order for the download to begin. As soon as you get that email, the resource should start downloading to your computer.
You do need to wait for email notification
OK, who's job is it to hit the processing key? I'm telling Bob, he could be making good money! Only kidding, thought I'd come home to read through it a tad. Hey, what's a few more hours? [:'(] Have to cut the grass anyway before it rains here.
For taking as long as it did to get the ESV Study Bible to Logos, I'm surprised it seems to be missing functionality I would expect to see. That's not to say I'm ungrateful, but Logos has just spoiled us with the inter-linking of material, popups/popovers, etc. in the texts.
For example, page 1790 in the ESV Study Bible has the Herodian Dynasty. The text is miniscule even on a 24" monitor running 1920x1200 (Reading View). I don't see a way to zoom into the image. I also would expect that the Scripture references in the image to contain popups of those verses. Granted, I understand this is an image; one that could be rendered easily (it seems) to allow for textural links.
Granted this is a small quibble, but it should be doable. Am I expecting too much from Logos?
Just got email, downloading now!
me too, I guess a quarter of a gig (well almost) is a good thing!
Just got email, downloading now! me too, I guess a quarter of a gig (well almost) is a good thing!
Up and running in L3, still waiting for L4 to pick it up ...
For taking as long as it did to get the ESV Study Bible to Logos, I'm surprised it seems to be missing functionality I would expect to see. That's not to say I'm ungrateful, but Logos has just spoiled us with the inter-linking of material, popups/popovers, etc. in the texts. For example, page 1790 in the ESV Study Bible has the Herodian Dynasty. The text is miniscule even on a 24" monitor running 1920x1200 (Reading View). I don't see a way to zoom into the image. I also would expect that the Scripture references in the image to contain popups of those verses. Granted, I understand this is an image; one that could be rendered easily (it seems) to allow for textural links. Granted this is a small quibble, but it should be doable. Am I expecting too much from Logos?
Well, the ESV people didn't provide any better version of this chart on their own on-line ESV Study Bible site. I expect Logos depends on what the ESV people make available which, in this case, had rather tiny print. And, BTW, the actual print version of this chart also has similar tiny print, about the same as if you viewed the chart in Logos in a full-size single pane (though a little easier to read than on a monitor). Short of scanning the paper version at high resolution (which might not have been permissable), I can't imagine what the solution would be.
For taking as long as it did to get the ESV Study Bible to Logos, I'm surprised it seems to be missing functionality I would expect to see. That's not to say I'm ungrateful, but Logos has just spoiled us with the inter-linking of material, popups/popovers, etc. in the texts. For example, page 1790 in the ESV Study Bible has the Herodian Dynasty. The text is miniscule even on a 24" monitor running 1920x1200 (Reading View). I don't see a way to zoom into the image. I also would expect that the Scripture references in the image to contain popups of those verses. Granted, I understand this is an image; one that could be rendered easily (it seems) to allow for textural links. Granted this is a small quibble, but it should be doable. Am I expecting too much from Logos? Well, the ESV people didn't provide any better version of this chart on their own on-line ESV Study Bible site. I expect Logos depends on what the ESV people make available which, in this case, had rather tiny print. And, BTW, the actual print version of this chart also has similar tiny print, about the same as if you viewed the chart in Logos in a full-size single pane (though a little easier to read than on a monitor). Short of scanning the paper version at high resolution (which might not have been permissable), I can't imagine what the solution would be.
Yup, I'm guessing that's the limitation Logos is working with. The best I could manage was to copy this graphic and paste into Photoshop and run a Smart Sharpen filter on it to make the text a bit more readable (click to enlarge), but still no links or popups for Scripture references:
Yup, I'm guessing that's the limitation Logos is working with.
FWIW, this same limitation also exists in the Accordance version of this resource, so this may be the best we will get, at least for awhile. [:(]
This chart could be engineered in such a way as to be more user friendly. I don't blame Logos on this, nor do I necessarily blame Crossway. It's just a thing that happens when you execute something one way, and then try to use it in a different way. But my point is, with a little money and time, if they would put their heads together, they could transform these into a bang-up interactive, usable chart.
Just think of how big the download would be, though, if all such charts were higher resolution and interactive. As it is, the Study Bible Notes are 257MB!
