Sharing resources of LOGos 4 with Kindle

I have only had my Logos 4 for mac a short time love it.

I received a Kindle for Christmas and was wondering it I could copy some of the books, not commentaries, over to make reading them a little easier, Like one of the devotionals, example.

Woudl like to use them in conjunction with each other.

Just curious

 

Keith

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    Welcome [:D]

    Wonder if http://biblia.com/ usable on Kindle ? can login with Logos account for online access to many resources.

    Logos currently offers 4 mobile options => http://www.logos.com/mobile

    By the way, an iPad has many book reader applications available, including Kindle.  An iPad color screen easy to read indoors (including Logos in worship services).

    I received a Kindle for Christmas and was wondering it I could copy some of the books, not commentaries, over to make reading them a little easier, Like one of the devotionals, example.

    Easy copy = No since Logos resources use a file format not supported by Kindle => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Kindle#File_formats

    Current 4.2a Beta for Mac has a known issue: Printing/Exporting in Resources is not supported yet

    Logos 4 PC can print/export resource(s) to text files.  Wiki page has virtualization information => http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4_Mac#Need_Logos_4_PC_feature.3f

    Keep Smiling [:)]

     

    On the PC you can copy and paste text - using the standard tools.  If this can be done on a Mac, then you can send your books to the Kindle to read.  You could also copy them into Open Office and print them into PDFs for downloading to the Kindle.  

    On the PC there is a program called Mobipocket Creator - this will create Mobi files that can be read on the Kindle as a Kindle book.

    Blessings,
    Floyd

    Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com

    On the PC you can copy and paste text - using the standard tools.

    Copy and paste works - Mac OS X standard print dialog box includes save as PDF (can create PDF's from many programs) - similar to installing a PDF printer on PC.

    On the PC there is a program called Mobipocket Creator - this will create Mobi files that can be read on the Kindle as a Kindle book.

    Learned Mobipocket Creator requires Windows (might work with freely available WINE).

    Likewise learned Calibre http://calibre-ebook.com/ has downloads for Windows, Mac, and Linux (with many e-book input and output formats).

    Keep Smiling [:)]

    This works perfectly...although, I've only cut and pasted less than a whole book of course, it's enough to get some reading done on the kindle.

    Robert Pavich

    For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

    Having experimented a bit with this, the mobile view of biblia.com is the least labour-intensive approach to reading a whole Logos book on the Kindle.

    There is a thread in the Biblia.com forum that deals with this.

    Having experimented a bit with this, the mobile view of biblia.com is the least labour-intensive approach to reading a whole Logos book on the Kindle.

    There is a thread in the Biblia.com forum that deals with this.

    Where? I searched Biblia topic for Kindle and didn't find any posts on this issue. Can you post a link to a specific post?

     

    Have a great day,
    jmac

    Where? I searched Biblia topic for Kindle and didn't find any posts on this issue.

    Wonder about opening a Kindle's web browser to http://biblia.com ?

    Keep Smiling [:)]

    Wonder about opening a Kindle's web browser to http://biblia.com ?

    Attached to this post are a couple of screenshots of Biblia.com on the browser of my Kindle Touch.

    Navigation of any website is easier on the Touch than on non-touchscreen Kindles, but it's still awkward to maneuver. You have to go down to read everything on a page and then click the right arrow to advance. 

    I still think the easiest way to read a Logos title on the Kindle is to convert the entire text. 

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    Yeah, I didn't find it either...

    I have been trying to figure out this same problem. In my personal opinion I would say it is incredibly easy to follow these steps:

    1. Download and install 'MobiPocket Publisher" Software

    2. From Logos4 copy and then past your book, or book section into a 'Word', or 'Text' document

         2a. I have Word 2007 and I had to save it as a Word 1997-2003 formated file for it to import onto MobiPocket.

    3. Go into your MobiPocket program and select Import From Existing File and select MS Word

    4. Browse and select the file

    5. Import

    6. After file is imported press the 'Build' button on the top of the program. 

     After this your Word Document will be put into a Kindle compatible format. This was extremely easy and is so incredibly practical for so many other things!

    Hope this helped!

    Blessings

    Austin

    Download and install 'MobiPocket Publisher" Software

    MobiPocket web site offers "Mobipocket Creator 4.2 Home Edition" and "Mobipocket Creator 4.2 Publisher Edition" - both need Windows 2000/XP with Internet Explorer 5.0 or above.  Either way, additional software needed to run on a Mac.

    Keep Smiling [:)]

    There is no need for extra software. Just email a document in any common text format (e.g. Microsoft Word) to the @free.kindle.com address that you can find on your Manage my Kindle page of the Amazon website. Amazon will convert it to a Kindle book and send it to your device.

    The dowsides of this approach are:

    1. Exporting the whole of a 500 page book from Logos is fiddly and time-consuming.

    2. You lose the footnotes and the convenience of shortcuts to other Logos resources.

    Using Biblia.com instead gets around these.

    A friend just copied a book from Logos 4 (new release) for PC into a Word doc then emailed it to his_name@kindle.com with "convert" in the subject line.  It arrived converted on his Kindle and the formatting looks really good.  

    A friend just copied a book from Logos 4 (new release) for PC into a Word doc then emailed it to his_name@kindle.com with "convert" in the subject line.  It arrived converted on his Kindle and the formatting looks really good.  


    How long did it take him, and are there any footnotes?

    How long did it take him, and are there any footnotes?

    A few minutes and no there are no footnotes although the numbers are in the text.

    A friend just copied a book from Logos 4 (new release) for PC into a Word doc then emailed it to his_name@kindle.com with "convert" in the subject line.  It arrived converted on his Kindle and the formatting looks really good.  

    I've never been able to get this to work...hmmm

     

    Robert Pavich

    For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

    A friend just copied a book from Logos 4 (new release) for PC into a Word doc then emailed it to his_name@kindle.com with "convert" in the subject line.  It arrived converted on his Kindle and the formatting looks really good.  

    I've never been able to get this to work...hmmm

     


    Hi Robert,

    I do this all the time.  This should help you out:  http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_navbox_email_200375630?nodeId=200375630&#email  Note the section on sending personal documents to Kindle. 

    The right address to send it to is my name with @free.kindle.com.  The word free has to be in the address.

    I've been experimenting with this a bit since I have a number of books in various Bible software platforms that I would simply like to read from beginning to end. I have both an iPad and a Kindle, and like many who have both, for long reading sessions, I believe the Kindle device is a much better choice. 

    Regarding titles in Logos, if using the Logos app on the iPad, the big problem is that you cannot take notes. Not too long ago, this was not a big deal for me. But reading ebooks on my Kindle or even in the Kindle app on my iPad has made this a desirable habit. 

    It's true that you can simply copy the text of a book in Logos to Word and send it to your Kindle's email address. This is quick and works flawlessly. Unfortunately, on your Kindle home screen, the "author" displayed is the email address from where you sent the document. I wanted the author to match the name of the actual author. 

    Lately, I've been in the mood to re-read some early Eugene Peterson. Rather than buy the Kindle version of The Contemplative Pastor, I remembered that I already had this in my Logos library. Since I've already experimented with converting a Word document (again, probably the easiest method), I decided to try out the free Calibre software. 

    So I copied the entire contents from the Logos version of The Contemplative Pastor to Word and then imported it into Calibre. No, I did not read the instructions, and simply assumed that Calibre would read a Word document. It does not. So, in checking the formats Calibre will read, I exported the text out of Word into an HTML file. 

    Calibre converted this easily to the Amazon Mobi format. I then emailed the book to my Kindle and it appeared within minutes. This whole process took only about 10 minutes. It would have probably taken less time if I'd known what I was doing right off. The only thing I did not do was to create a true, linked Table of Contents. Although I didn't do this, it does not look like a difficult process at all. 

    Now check out my results in these screenshots from the Kindle:

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    Above: Note that The Contemplative Pastor shows up in my book list with the correct author just like any regular Kindle book.

     

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    Above: The cover page. Notice even the placement of "Volume 17" to the side is just like the Logos edition.

     

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    Above: the copyright page. Note that bold formatting was retained. 

     

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    Above: the first page of the second chapter. Note the formatting that's been retained: italics, different-sized fonts, larger capital for first letter in chapter. 

     

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    Above: note that the Kindle's built in dictionary works with the book, just like any regular Kindle book. 

     

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    Above: Highlighting and notes work. You can even share the note via Twitter & Facebook. 

     

    All things considered, this seems to be the best way to read books from Logos and other Bible software on a Kindle. By converting the book with Calibre, the Kindle treats it just as it would any regular book that would be bought from the Amazon, with perhaps the exception of page numbers (now that Amazon has begun adding these). 

    A friend just copied a book from Logos 4 (new release) for PC into a Word doc then emailed it to his_name@kindle.com with "convert" in the subject line.  It arrived converted on his Kindle and the formatting looks really good.  

     

    this just isn't working for me...I've tried the "name@free.kindle.com email and nothing happens...do I do something else on my kindle to receive the docs?

     

    Robert Pavich

    For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

    this just isn't working for me...I've tried the "name@free.kindle.com email and nothing happens...do I do something else on my kindle to receive the docs?

    Are you sure that you have the correct email address from the Amazon website? Is wi-fi turned on on your Kindle? Is the Kindle set up to connect to the network (do you have wi-fi symbol in the top right-hand corner of the screen)? Note that the "free" address only works with wi-fi and not with the Kindle's 3G, if you have that version. You also need to set up the email address that you are sending from as an approved address on the Manage your Kindle page at Amazon.

    Hope one of these sorts you out.

    this just isn't working for me...I've tried the "name@free.kindle.com email and nothing happens...do I do something else on my kindle to receive the docs?

    Check to make certain that your Kindle address is correct. You don't need the "free" part of the address if you're only using a wifi Kindle (which is what I have). Also, make certain that in your Kindle management settings on Amazon's website, you've authorized the email address from which you're SENDING from. If that's not correct, Amazon will reject the email. 

    Finally, I've had more success with .doc than .docx, so I always send using the former. 

    Logos does not yet have an official position on putting books on the Kindle.

    We definitely do not support your distributing or re-selling the books, but we design our software around a "purchase once, use anywhere" model -- for the original purchaser. Personally, I'd like us to have an "Export to Kindle" feature built right in.

    I have no idea who this will antagonize or not. Some publishers, for example, are happy to support "buy once, read anywhere," others are not. (We can't even enable some books for iPhone access because of publisher restrictions.)

    So at this point, there is no official policy but your own interpretation of a complex stew of licenses / fair use / legal precedent / etc. You won't make me upset if you read it on a Kindle yourself; I would consider it inappropriate to give the content to someone else, to share licenses, to redistribute the content, etc. 

    I hope we'll have better support for e-ink e-book devices in the future, and we'll probably have to adjust that support to varying (and changing) publisher opinions.

    -- Bob

     

    Thanks, Bob, for clearing that up. I didn't feel like I was doing anything wrong by exporting to my Kindle for my own reading use, but a lot of others on here certainly did. The Kindle is a great device for straight reading of books—even better than the iPad for simply reading, in my opinion. 

    Wow that is a great reply.  No seriously.  The Kindle is indeed a great reading device and it would be marvelous to be able to push books straight from Logos to Kindle.  It would also provide a greater incentive to buy books thru Logos than thru Amazon.

    Thank you, Bob. It is a great help to hear the official Logos position, even if it is that there is no official Logos position. It is certainly useful to be able to read resources on the Kindle, whether by exporting or via Biblia.com.

    Bob - thank you so much for your reply.

    An "export to Kindle" feature... that makes me drool. I know it is not planned, but I will pretend that it is. [:)]

    Thanks again, and thanks for Logos!

    Jerry

    Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage

    Now that I know that Logos is ok with exporting to Kindle for personal reading...I'm on "auto-drool"...

    Robert Pavich

    For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

    Logos does not yet have an official position on putting books on the Kindle.

    We definitely do not support your distributing or re-selling the books, but we design our software around a "purchase once, use anywhere" model -- for the original purchaser. Personally, I'd like us to have an "Export to Kindle" feature built right in.

    -- Bob

     

     

    Bob or anyone else at Logos,

    Will this ever happen? Any progress?

    Jerry

    Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage

    My progress is that I have continued to buy from Amazon rather than Logos :-)

    My progress is that I have continued to buy from Amazon rather than Logos :-)

    I understand where you are coming from, Rob. I buy from Amazon too.

    But...

    I would like to read the books I already own from Logos on my Kindle. I have scores of books that are for reading and not really studying. Many I have never looked at.

    Also, I like Amazon and I like Logos and will continue to buy books from both. However, if I had an "export to Kindle" function, I would buy more books from Logos as I would rather them get my money.

    Jerry

    Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage

    Logos does not yet have an official position on putting books on the Kindle.

    We definitely do not support your distributing or re-selling the books, but we design our software around a "purchase once, use anywhere" model -- for the original purchaser. Personally, I'd like us to have an "Export to Kindle" feature built right in.

    -- Bob

     

     

    Bob or anyone else at Logos,

    Will this ever happen? Any progress?

    Jerry

    I can't speak to whether it will ever happen for e-ink-based Kindles, but our Android app is in Amazon's appstore (http://www.amazon.com/Logos-Bible-Software/dp/B0062RM1VQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=mobile-apps&qid=1320857175&sr=1-2), so you should be able to read your Logos books on a Kindle Fire.

    David Mitchell
    Development Lead
    Faithlife