Plato & Aristotle in Loeb

Am I really the only one hoping for this?  [:)]

Well, I"m in the reverse position [:)]  I'm coming from a Classics background; and working to move into NT Greek.  

To answer your question:  yes, I was a Classics major and have studied Latin & Greek since Prep School (Philips Exeter etc) so I'm quite proficient in Classical/Attic Greek, and even more so in Homeric.

Having said that, it's nice to have tagging and so on because there are always words and forms that one runs across which are hazy or unclear or entirely opaque; either because one has partly completely forgotten; or, the text is unclear and no one is quite sure. Et cetera.

A contemporary classicist once said to me something along the lines of: “well, Greek is actually not a noun. It’s a verb, meaning to spend ones time endlessly rotating from text to lexicon to commentary to grammars.” That seems quite true to me.  [:)]

In any case, my understanding is that the Logos Loebs will be fully tagged and all that - so, many people at different levels of learning should be able to make use of these volumes.

The 8 volume Homer Logos Loeb is Under Development: http://www.logos.com/product/31080/homers-iliad-and-odyssey

And many more are at various stages of development:  http://www.logos.com/products/search?q=Loeb&start=0&sort=rel&pageSize=60

Indeed, it was the Perseus collection (and now the Loebs) that initially brought me here.  I'm still trying to decide on what package would fit me best, lol.

Thanks for posting!  [:)] 

Considering the fact that we are getting other Loeb editions of Greek authors, I would be surprised if this isn't coming down the pike.

That's what I've been thinking George.  I mean, it's not like their obscure or anything and are likely to be left behind.  And yet, and yet....why aren't they in CP yet?  [:^)]

I was hoping maybe that some interest would spur things along?  LOL.  

Anyway.  Fingers.  Crossed.  

[:)]

Where would you advise that I begin reading the classics?  Any thoughts about approaching the classics in general?

Thanks Bruce.  [:)]

Well, in my opinion the best way into the Classics is via Homer.  This is true for many, many reasons.  Indeed, this was the way, until relatively recently, that Ancient Greek was traditional taught:  Homer -> Classical/Attic -> Koine.  

I cut my teeth on Clyde Pharr's Homeric Greek - it has some issues but overall is excellent.  It gets the student very quickly into translating and reading the Iliad; and it's VERY fast moving; but for someone who has classical grammar in their bones it's not so bad.  

It can be found in pdf form all over the internet, for example:  http://cdn.textkit.net/CP_Homeric_Greek_AR5.pdf

Besides the Middle Liddle (which you probably have, along with the LSJ), I would recommend as utterly indispensable (and wish I had it when I was learning):  the John Jackson Interlinear Iliad.  This is now the Logos version of the English Interlinear/tagged Iliad.  

I would also recommend as nearly indispensable: 

• Cunliffe's A Lexicon of the Homeric Dialect
• Robinson's Greek Verb Endings
• Marinone's All the Greek Verbs
• Wharton's Etymological Lexicon of Classical Greek
• Sihler's New Comparative Grammar of Greek & Latin

There are many Homeric Grammars and dictionaries; however, one that stands out is Monro's Grammar.  It's a bit advanced but still helpful to "grow into."  

Amazingly enough, Logos has this:  http://www.logos.com/product/27094/homeric-grammar

As well as Smyth's Grammar:  http://www.logos.com/product/27093/a-greek-grammar-for-colleges

Which is very impressive. 

And makes me think that maybe Logos would want to incorporate some of the volumes I mentioned?  Particularly Pharr?  As George said, it is in the public domain.  [:)]

Butters, it's interesting your comment from Boston and the Bible.

As you probably know, the pattern is not new and seems to have been a major issue for the Alexandrians in the years leading up to the 'last days'.

A Logos resource I recommend is http://www.logos.com/product/17174/between-athens-and-jerusalem 
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Collins is good. The volume is unusual in focusing upon the diaspora, instead of events in Palestine. And of course, there's a considerable discussion between the interplay of greek philosophy and jewish culture.  I have good coverage in Palestine (2nd Temple) but this is new territory for me. Very interesting.

Denise, thanks ever so much!  [:)]  That sounds like an excellent study - and very much look forward to reading it; touches on many interests of mine and about which I have a great deal to learn.  Tertullian's question is still ringing in our ears, isn't it?  [:D] 

Well, if Stephen Daitz likes Rodney Merrill's translation then that's saying a lot:  http://www.amazon.com/The-Iliad-Rodney-Merrill/dp/0472033980/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375197856&sr=8-1&keywords=Rodney+Merrill+iliad

His blurb says:

[quote]"Other competent translations of Homer exist, but none accomplish what Merrill aims for: to convey to the reader-listener in translation the meaning and the sounds of Homer, coming as close as possible to the poetry of the original. Merrill accomplishes this virtuosic achievement by translating Homer's Greek into English hexameters, a process requiring not only a full understanding of the original Greek, but also an unusual mastery of the sounds, rhythms, and nuances of English." 

One thing to keep in mind, however, is that meter in English is accentual; and relentlessly so; while Homeric meters are syllabic.  And there's quite a chasm betwixt the two.  

Also, of course, Homeric has pitch accents and many other phonemic qualities that give the language a unique sound that cannot be rendered at all in English.