Adventist Books for Logos

I did not know the manual varied from division to division. Wouldn't it be helpful to have all of them for comparison purposes including all the versions from rhe original I believe in 1932?

Lynden O. Williams

Wouldn't it be helpful to have all of them for comparison purposes including all the versions from the original I believe in 1932?

If you can find a market for it. It will involve scanning the old manuals, and tagging them with Ellen White's quotes. Do we have enough people interested to make it profitable.

Thinking

It will involve scanning the old manuals

Why? They are available for public download in pdf format at the archives: http://docs.adventistarchives.org/documents.asp?CatID=56&SortBy=2&ShowDateOrder=True

There are actually 17 of them. They would need automated tagging, but that is it. Then comparisons would be easy.

I did not see manuals that were different by division. I would be surprised if they were, since the manual is voted at the General Conference in full session and is not a division or union action.

Lynden O. Williams

Thanks for the link Phil. Taken from p.19 of the current manual. (online)

In 1948, recognizing that local conditions sometimes call for special actions,
the General Conference Committee voted that “each division, including
the North American Division of the world field, prepare a ‘Supplement’
to the new Church Manual not in any way modifying it but containing such
additional matter as is applicable to the conditions and circumstances prevailing
in the division; the manuscripts for these Supplements to be submitted
to the General Conference Committee for endorsement before being
printed.”—Autumn Council Actions, 1948, p. xxi from IADPA.

In the one printed by Inter-american Division, it gives additional material in its supplement from pp. 225 and onward, that relate to

Legal Organizations

Title Deeds for Church Properties
Legal Documents
Insurance
Repairs and conservatioin of buildings
Suggestions Relative to Wills
Wills, Legacies andTestiments
Laws Must be strictly Followed
Who Can Make a Wills
To Make a Change in a Will
Suggesteds Sample of a Will
In Favore of Whom Should Wills be Made
Preparation of Communion Bread
Ordination of Women as Church Elders
Criteria for the Ordination of elders and deacons who have been disfellowshiped but have returned to the Church
Use of Jewelry

Our Fundamental Beliefs is in Chapter 3, whereas the one online is in Chapter 14. See if the online version is the one that lines up with the NAD version. Helps me to see how much diversity there is in Adventism.

Edwin Sully PAYET

are you talking about the church manual or Church policy handbook?

Edwin Sully PAYET

if you are really talking about the church manual, that means your division took the liberty to add extra materials in it !!!!!

JohnB

if you are really talking about the church manual, that means your division took the liberty to add extra materials in it !!!!!

Edwin , Lyndon is talking about the church manual and as he explained, his Division is not taking liberties as they are permitted to do precisely that. If you check the NAD manual you will see a Notes section at the back which is the NAD addition for local circumstances. It is explained on page 18 of the manual in a similar way to those of Lydon. http://www.adventist.org/ChurchManual_2010.pdf .To be honest I was aware of this but had completely forgotten about it 8-( .
The variation between Divisions extends to various matters such as (I believe) allowing each Division to decide whether or not to officially allow women to be ordained as local Church Elders in their territory.

Martin Weber

Phil is correct--the church manuals are available online; most of them are in the public domain. I requested them this week. Then starts the process of tagging after sufficient funds are raised in PrePub. It's a process that takes some time due to the immense number of documents that Logos is incorporating into its system.

Jonathan Vliet

The new Ellen White comprehensive encyclopedia!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3WXwHZXUok

Lynden O. Williams

Thanks Jonathan for pointing this out. It does not seem to be on sale as yet. I have started a new thread to make sure that it gets noticed.

David Salazar

Thanks Jonathan for pointing this out. It does not seem to be on sale as yet. I have started a new thread to make sure that it gets noticed.

Saw on the White Estate website that it's due "2013/2014"

Lynden O. Williams

David, please provide a link.

Jonathan Vliet

Yes, I just noticed that video and contacted R&H. They said it is slated for the print copy in January or February. So far no plans for Logos though, so yes, it would be great if that conversation could begin on this side!

Thank you Martin!