Mind Mapping program integration
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...Currently if I just highlight, copy, paste from Logos to MS Word or ppt, logos is really cool in that it includes footnotes and a citation. No such feature in MM :-(.
I've brought this up to MM and they don't care since we are not a large enough client base for them. It is frustrating.
I think i like your idea of cross linking. What do you mean by what's in Logos would update in external app? All I can think of is Notes, did you have other items in mind?
Suppose I could have a "link" to a Logos note or clipping file that I could put in Mind Manager or Word and the content of that note/clipping would show up in those applications and the next time I opened the document the content would change if I had changed the note/clipping in Logos. Maybe that's not as easy as just keeping notes in the external program to start with. It's just an idea.
Lastly, I'm not sure I understand what you mean by being able to create a link which would open a resource in Logos to a particular location. We already have that feature. Do you mean with less clicks?
I'm not aware of this. In Mind Manager I can create a link to a web page or file. When I click on that link it opens a web browser or the appropriate document program. Can I create a link in MM that would open Logos and take me to a location in a specific resource? I can create such a link inside Logos 4 through the favorites list. I'd like to be able to have such a link in an external document. Can that be done? I'd also like to have an external link to a folder in the Logos favorites that would copy all the links in the favorites folder to my external application and keep the list up to date as I change it in Logos.
Have a great day,
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s I really had to start creating my presentation in EXTRA LARGE mode and just put a few main points with some verses as subpoints or else the presentation would look small on the screen.
I have used PowerPoint Plex (an addin tool from Microsoft) to make larger than normal powerpoint possible. Using this tool, you could put a picture of your mind map on a regular slide, then put portions of the mind map on separate slides. Then, in the presentation, you can double-click on the portion you want to focus in to see the details. right-click, and zoom out to see the overall map. Harder to explain, than show...
Check out the site for pptplex http://www.officelabs.com/projects/pptPlex/Pages/default.aspx
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http://www.shkaminski.com/Church/
I'm not a programmer. I built these because I needed them. I would love to share them, but they I don't know how well they would work on another computer.
Steven, I just looked at what you've put together and I would love to try these on my computer if you are still open to sharing them. My email is mike AT makingfriends DOT org.
Thanks for posting these!
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I'd appreciate it if you would take some screen shots Steve and post them on http://community.logos.com/forums/p/29359/219146.aspx#219146
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Now, to my question: Do you guys use your mind map mainly to study and organize your thoughts for your sermon or do you actually take your mindmap to the pulpit and project it on a screen?
Hi Douglas,
I would suggest a third use: the lectern. I am currently teaching a course on Church History for adult Sunday School. I had highlighted salient information; e.g., dates and people, in my standard text file to be used as crib notes. If I had had this functionality, I would have built a chart for the lectern to serve as my outline. That way, it doesn't matter how confusing it might be to someone else. It only has to serve as a crib sheet for me.
Revisit Bob Turners post: Bob Turner
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Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:24 PMBob included a pdf which was a single sheet outline of the book of Acts. Many pastors could study that chart for about 15 minutes, then use it to give an extemporaneous overview of the book.
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MJ,
I would like to know how you use the Warnier-Orr diagrams. I use them in my work when designing software, (hardly anyone know of them; I ws trained on them in school long ago). I nver thought of them in use for Bible Study though.
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I personally would like them to add a mind mapping functionality to Logos 4. I would like to limit the number of different software program I use and would love to see it integrated directly into Logos with the ability to link directly to resources/notes/etc. I would also like the ability to share them similiar to what they do with reading list.
What exactly do you have in mind? From your comment I gather you would like to have a mind-map format for notes?
Jim, yes that is what I would like to see. Some way to visualize notes and show how the items are related.
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I would like to know how you use the Warnier-Orr diagrams.
I use them primarily for outlining because of the collapse/expand features. But I also use them to for repeating structures for form analysis - showing the form but not content for exercises in identifying the structure of a text. I also use them to show hermeneutic processing of a text which is much closer to their intended use. I'll try to remember to post some examples after I've visited Mother today.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Some way to visualize notes and show how the items are related.
If you have any examples could you post them on http://community.logos.com/forums/p/29359/219146.aspx#219146. Thanks
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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G'day,
I am just about to buy Inspiration 9 (partly due to your imput here, and partly due to the fact it is a little cheaper than MM9) and was wondering about this feature...you say it is easily integrated into a powerpoint presentation. Does that mean I could create my project on Inspiration 9 and then present it using MS Powerpoint (instead of Inspiration's own viewer)? This functionality is well addressed in MM9's advertising, but Inspiration 9 seems to focus on integration with MS Word.
Thank you for your time.
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From the help page of Inspiration 9.
You can save a diagram, mind map or outline as slides that can be opened in
Microsoft PowerPoint or other presentation applications. The exported document
contains formatted topic text. The main idea becomes the presentation title, and
each first level topic becomes a separate slide. Subtopics become slide content.
You can choose to include hidden subtopics and hidden notes.Hyperlinks, graphics, audio files and videos inserted into notes are not
included in the exported document. Video symbols are converted to symbol
text.=========
You can also export diagrams in a variety of formats for use in PP
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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yes that is what I would like to see. Some way to visualize notes and show how the items are related.
Logos' weakness is in notes. The whole separation of notes and clippings they did in Logos 4 was certainly a great disappointment after years of prompting them. It is not all that imaginative. I simply say that to indicate that I have no hope that they will show much cleverness or put much effort into this. Instead of redesigning Logos, I think it's doable to provide some linkage to outside programs then they can focus on what they do best and let others develop external methods for organizing and displaying the results of their research.
Have a great day,
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It (Inspiration 9) has a full array of keyboard shortcuts
Can you steer me to some documentation on shortcuts? I cannot find it.
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Start at Help (first line under Help of control bar)
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Start at Help (first line under Help of control bar)
Been following the thread since its inception. Although I may add MindGenuis as well, I downloaded the Inspiration trial after you recommended it. While it doesn't do everything I'd like - which is why I'll probably add MindGenuis, too - I really like it and the price is right!
So thanks for your input. I doubt I would have learned about it otherwise.
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Lastly, I'm not sure I understand what you mean by being able to create a link which would open a resource in Logos to a particular location. We already have that feature. Do you mean with less clicks?
I'm not aware of this. In Mind Manager I can create a link to a web page or file. When I click on that link it opens a web browser or the appropriate document program. Can I create a link in MM that would open Logos and take me to a location in a specific resource?
Yes, you can do this! In Logos, go to the location you desire. Click the little drop down arrow next to the book icon in the upper left of the panel. Towards the bottom of the list there is an option "Copy Location As...". Choose "URL". Switch over to MM and select "Paste|Hyperlink". At this point the link will not work yet, but you can then right-click the link and "edit hyperlink" and change the hyperlink path from "Relative" to "Absolute".
Hope this helps!
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which is why I'll probably add MindGenuis, too - I really like it and the price is right!
Merely curiosity on my part - what is it that you like about MindGenius? I often use ArguNet which has a terrific price[;)] And I still use Logos 3 for timelines.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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ooooooo! I didn't know about this!. The link itself looks unusual, but I followed your directions and it worked! Thanks Jesse!
Have a great day,
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which is why I'll probably add MindGenuis, too - I really like it and the price is right!
Merely curiosity on my part - what is it that you like about MindGenius? I often use ArguNet which has a terrific price
And I still use Logos 3 for timelines.Well, I was going to say its flexibility and MS Office Suite compatibility coupled with a super academic discount ... until you mentioned ArguNet, which as a secondary program (to Inspiration) is even better suited to my needs, with a price that just can't be beat! So, thanks yet again! [:)]
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I've used Inspiration for years. Inspiration is targeted at teachers and provides mind-mapping, tree diagrams, outlines, graphic organizer templates etc. at a very reasonable price. I've tried several other programs and always end up going back to Inspiration.
A question for those of you that use Inspiration: is it possible to create links within Inspiration that link back to LOGOS? The tech-support people at Inspiration tell me now, but I suspect that there is a workaround.
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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I have been working through the Learn Hebrew & Greek lessons. I'm in the middle of the Hebrew video on word study, chasing down "council of the Lord" in Jeremiah 23:18 where "sod" is the word behind "council". I started copying the notetaking in the video, using both Logos notes but also in freemind -- which I decided to try motivated by this thread. I enjoyed the ability to quickly move nodes around and make visual connections. And I was able to make links back to Logos -- to verses, Bible word study tool, searches, and notes. I assume passage lists and other resources would be linkable too. (see image below - I hope it shows up OK. It looks kind of small.)
Then I copied the note I made in freemind and pasted it into a Logos note. That worked well, too, although I had to use another program like KeyNote or msWord to get better line spacing. It comes in as an indented outline. (see 2nd image below)
Anyway, I'm glad I ran onto this thread. I think I'm going to enjoy using freemind along with Logos. Hopefully they will become more friendly with each other as time goes by. I left a note on the freemind forums asking how to make refTagger work in freemind -- that would be very useful, as others have pointed out.
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Ken! *smile*
Thanks much for your great post. I think I'd like to try that program also. Which download did you use? The smaller one or the one with PDF export?
Peace to you! and Joy!
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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This is what I mean:
OS Download Size (MB) Note MS Windows Windows Installer Min 6 A smaller version without SVG export and PDF export. MS Windows Windows Installer Max 14 All-inclusive version Mac OS X MAC OS X 14 All-inclusive version. Linux Debian Linux 2.6 Please consider first checking the release notes. Linux SuSE 9.x Linux and other RPM-based distros like Fedora and Mandriva 2.8 See also release notes. Any binaries for any operating system 6 A smaller version without SVG export and PDF export. Any binaries for any operating system - max 13 All-inclusive version eComStation Download: WarpIN Installation package from netlabs.org 7.6 All-inclusive version Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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Which download did you use? The smaller one or the one with PDF export?
I must have downloaded the bigger one because I have svg and pdf export options.
I am really enjoying this nimble little program. I installed at work, too, where it has become my computer best friend.
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Thank you!
*smile*
Peace!
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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I asked this question a while back, but did not see an answer. Thank you for any help.
[quote]MJ. Smith:I've used Inspiration for years. Inspiration is targeted at teachers and provides mind-mapping, tree diagrams, outlines, graphic organizer templates etc. at a very reasonable price. I've tried several other programs and always end up going back to Inspiration.
A question for those of you that use Inspiration: is it possible to create links within Inspiration that link back to LOGOS? The tech-support people at Inspiration tell me "no", but I suspect that there is a workaround.
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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