Announcement: Logos Now to continue at same price (with new name)
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Bob- Thank you.
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I had no idea about Faithlife Connect till I stumbled onto this thread. I guess because the auto-renew on my Logos Now account is unchecked, I didn't receive the initial email about being moved to from Now to Connect and am still trying to determine what all is going on. I don't think I have received anything about Faithlife Connect, blissfully unaware of its introduction. I guess I need to check out the Logos forums more often. [:)] I'm glad that concerns have (or "are") being satisfied.
My LN subscription is good into August, and I was debating whether to continue with Logos Now or revert to the full feature set. I now need to see what Faithlife Connect is all about and decide whether to go with the Connect Essentials--No Library. If I'm grandfathered in at the Logos Now $99/year subscription, I may go with it.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Bill Moore said:
I had no idea about Faithlife Connect till I stumbled onto this thread.
If you plan on reading through these (many) threads, I suggest you go get a BIG bucket of popcorn in advance :-)
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Bill Moore said:
I had no idea about Faithlife Connect till I stumbled onto this thread. I guess because the autopay on my Logos Now account is unchecked, I didn't receive the initial email about being moved to from Now to Connect and am still trying to determine what all is going on. I don't think I have received anything about Faithlife Connect, blissfully unaware of its introduction. I guess I need to check out the Logos forums more often.
I'm glad that concerns have (or "are") being satisfied.My LN subscription is good into August, and I was debating whether to continue with Logos Now or revert to the full feature set. I now need to see what Faithlife Connect is all about and decide whether to go with the Connect Essentials--No Library. If I'm grandfathered in at the Logos Now $99/year subscription, I may go with it.
PetahChristian, 7 posts above you, has a summary.
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I voiced criticism when you made the decision, so now I must thank you and give kudos for the fact that you actually listened to your customers. Thank you!
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Hi and GOD Bless you.
Thank you.
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Thank you Bob. I think it's fantastic when a CEO can stand up and admit a mistake to his customers and then make it right. Like many others, I will be setting my auto-renew back to 'on.'
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Everyone keeps talking about keeping or losing the $200 voucher. This may confuse some as not everyone got a $200 voucher. Mine for example was on $100. Not complaining as it simplifies my options.
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David J Heintzman said:Bill Moore said:
I had no idea about Faithlife Connect till I stumbled onto this thread.
If you plan on reading through these (many) threads, I suggest you go get a BIG bucket of popcorn in advance :-)
Indeed David! Since you're suggesting something that is totally cholesterol free, might I also recommend an extra large can of Red Bull or a nice delicious Coke for an Afterburner effect. Strap in and enjoy the ride Bill. See ya in the New Year!
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Marshall Harrison said:Scott E. Mahle said:Rob Lambert said:
the best options to acquire this one at least ????? are.
If you would like to own the Lexham Hebrew-English Interlinear Bible, see “This title is included as part of the following collections” on the right side of the product page.
Following that link, the Lexham Hebrew-English Interlinear Bible was not a resource/book that we had but rather a feature of the Logos 7 Full Feature Set that we got as a subscription benefit of Now. So I'm happy.
Marshall, Scott or anybody... does the Lexham Hebrew English Interlinear Bible now come with the new Faithlife Connect which is replacing Logos Now?
Thanks....
Rob
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David J Heintzman said:
Bill Moore said:I had no idea about Faithlife Connect till I stumbled onto this thread.
If you plan on reading through these (many) threads, I suggest you go get a BIG bucket of popcorn in advance :-)
Bootjack said:Indeed David! Since you're suggesting something that is totally cholesterol free, might I also recommend an extra large can of Red Bull or a nice delicious Coke for an Afterburner effect. Strap in and enjoy the ride Bill. See ya in the New Year!
Thanks, but I’ve a little too much to do and have gotten the gist of it. At this point, it seems that Connect Essentials—No Library is worth keeping at the LN subscription price. I’ll re-engage auto-renew whenever that option is again available.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Bill Moore said:
Connect Essentials—No Library is worth keeping at the LN subscription price. I’ll re-engage auto-renew whenever that option is again available.
[Y] +1
Dear Logos, any hint on when we might be able to re-engage auto-renew? Hopefully before I forget that I need to?
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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Out of curiosity... anyone know when we might see our subscriptions changed back (or changed to the new system)?
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Phil, will those of us who meet this criteria be contacted via email? If so, any idea when that will start to happen? If not, how will we be contacted?Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:Mattillo said:Before all of this I rested at LN annual for $99. Will it stay at the annual rate or will it move to $9.99/month
If you weren't an active Logos Now member on 2/21 but were in the past, you'll receive an opportunity to take advantage of this special offer of Faithlife Connect Essentials (No Library) at Logos Now pricing, and you should be able to choose whether you want to pay monthly at $9.99 or annually at $99.99.
Thanks!
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This is very good news. Thank you!
Question. I thought that Logos Now provides steady feature upgrades to the Logos base w/o all of the library updates. I see a lot of people on this thread talking about how they will now upgrade to Logos 8 (whenever it comes out). That's great, but for those of us who do not need major library enhancements, will Logos Now continue to give us Logos feature updates as they roll out? I have Logos 7, though I believe that I received it (bit by bit) as part of my subscription to Logos Now.
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BillS said:Bill Moore said:
Connect Essentials—No Library is worth keeping at the LN subscription price. I’ll re-engage auto-renew whenever that option is again available.
+1Dear Logos, any hint on when we might be able to re-engage auto-renew? Hopefully before I forget that I need to?
From what I can tell, Bill, we are already enrolled in Faithlife Connect. If I recall correctly, I went to connect.faithlife.com, logged in with my Faithlife credentials, found "Manage Subscriptions" at the bottom of the page, and discovered my LogosNow account would cease April 1 and my "Faithlife Connect Essentials - No Library (formerly Logos Now)" account would expire on August 29, the date when LN was to have expired. There I was able to choose auto-renew.
I'm not sure how good my memory is on the steps, but that should get you close.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Thank you!
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I haven't gotten an email yet but I did check my subscriptions page and it was changed to:
Faithlife Connect Essentials - No Library (formerly Logos Now) - Annual @ $99.99/year
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Mattillo said:
I haven't gotten an email yet but I did check my subscriptions page and it was changed to:
Faithlife Connect Essentials - No Library (formerly Logos Now) - Annual @ $99.99/year
Were it not for the Logos forums, and this thread in particular, I would not know that Logos Now is almost no more and that I had been switched to Faithlife Connect. I've yet to receive anything from Faithlife about the change, evidently because my LN subscription was not set to auto-renew.
Still--no harm, no foul. It seems to be working out for the best. I may not have continued my LN subscription, but FCE -- No Library is worth keeping to me.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Bob Pritchett said:
this announcement restores every user to a better situation with absolutely no change in cost.
Thank you, Bob, for reversing this decision! Yes, it's definitely a better situation for me now.
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Bill Moore said:BillS said:Bill Moore said:
Connect Essentials—No Library is worth keeping at the LN subscription price. I’ll re-engage auto-renew whenever that option is again available.
+1Dear Logos, any hint on when we might be able to re-engage auto-renew? Hopefully before I forget that I need to?
... From what I can tell, Bill, we are already ... able to choose auto-renew. ...
Right you are, & done. Last time I tried to renew, it was frozen.
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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Just saw this in my subscriptions
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Jon Bradley said:
Just saw this in my subscriptions
Me too. I had turned off my auto renew last week. Today, I went and had to switch it back on and it turned it on with no problem.
Cynthia
Romans 8:28-38
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Thanks Bob, love your ownership of the problem but seriously you've lost me in the back and forth, product name changes, platform changes, subscription level changes and so it goes on. So will now try to stop feeling giddy and try and understand what was added, lost, and then changed, and what exactly I have and why I have it.
While I think I understand what your trying to accomplish in making the product more accessible and keep relevant to the trends, and maintain compatibility across multiple platforms - I have a question. Is the plan for Logos to end up being monetised like Adobe CS and accessible under licence only by monthly/annual subscription? The Faithlife platform you have now established gives hints towards that direction.
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What lost me was the answer to the question: Does LN really helps FL make a profit to survive or not? From what I read, it didn't, but then it was like, "well, it does." So I'm still confused. Hopefully they can make their buck to stay in business.
I'll be on the look out for the email offer Bob said FL was going to sent to previous customers. If I don't get it, I'll still check out the benefits and sign up before the release of L8 later this year or whenever it happens.
Great to have LN back without the additional library that some of us didn't need.
DAL
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DAL,
What I understood about that question is that LN would have been profitable, but only something like 4% of users adopted LN, which was not enough to be profitable, or something like that. I can't remember which post I saw it on. The combination of the cloud services with LN-type benefits is their answer to LN not turning a profit.
I, like (probably) every LN user of "old", am extremely happy for the Faithlife Connect version of LN to be around, as it has everything I want to use.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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I'm not certain that the Connect pricing chart will be updated with this content because it's not available to non-Logos Now subscribers and it would be confusing to them. I would like a "Connect pricing chart"-like page which defines what our benefits are and how to engage with them.PetahChristian said:Martin Folley said:I still cannot work out the advantage that retaining the re-badged LN option has over moving to the starter plus a $200 voucher.
Re-badged LN = Connect Essentials (No Library), which has the following advantages over Connect Starter:
- It provides access to the full feature set (instead of the starter feature set).
- It provides access to early release features.
- It provides access to LN's subscription-only features such as lemma-in-passage, and morph query builder.
- It provides access to a free course every six months (instead of once per year).
- It provides two free books a month (one Lexham/Kirkdale Press title, and one classic title).
If you don't care about the free books every month, one extra course per year, or all the extra features in LN that aren't in the starter feature set, then Connect Starter is not only cheaper than rebranded LN, but you also get $200.
If you do want any of the Connect Essentials benefits, the rebranded LN is priced $100 less per year for the same benefits (less the book rentals). It would be cheaper to go with the grandfathered LN price over the long run, rather than keeping the $200 voucher (and using it to help upgrade from Starter to Essentials).
Everything should be more clear once the Connect pricing chart is updated with the new Essentials (No Library) tier details.
That said, I have set my subscription back to auto-renew. I am glad that I'll still have access to the same content on all of my devices and I hope that this has resolved all of those issues.
That said, regarding the free courses, since I never took part in them before, is there only a set of courses that we can choose from or does it include all of them?0 -
Ian Shepard said:
That said, regarding the free courses, since I never took part in them before, is there only a set of courses that we can choose from or does it include all of them?
It's any of them with the exception of bundles. I went for a course on First Corinthians which normally retails for over 400 dollars
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