Smart Tags Problem
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Ed Ball said:
And let's not forget to thank Chris Jackson for blogging about the problem, Microsoft for creating the hotfix, and Google for finding them both.
Thanks, Ed!
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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Interesting piece of detective work. The development team is to be commended!
Glad everyone can enjoy the new Smart Tags now.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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I've written up a short wiki page on this, pointing people to the more common reasons for SmartTags not working first: http://wiki.logos.com/SmartTags_Not_Working
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Rosie Perera said:
I've written up a short wiki page on this, pointing people to the more common reasons for SmartTags not working first: http://wiki.logos.com/SmartTags_Not_Working
Thanks, Rosie.
I've added the other "you must do X" notes from http://www.logos.com/articleviewer/530 to that page, so that there's a clear list of things that may cause problems with the smart tag.
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Bradley Grainger said:
I've added the other "you must do X" notes from http://www.logos.com/articleviewer/530 to that page, so that there's a clear list of things that may cause problems with the smart tag.
Thanks! I've changed it to "Logos 4.1 must be running (in the background)."
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I am running Windows 7 64 bit with Ofice 2007. I now have Smart Tags
BUT the underlining is so faint that it is very, very difficult to even see it.
Regards, SteveF
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SteveF said:
I am running Windows 7 64 bit with Ofice 2007. I now have Smart Tags
BUT the underlining is so faint that it is very, very difficult to even see it.
Agreed. Not much you can do about it. This is Word's fault, and they apparently do not give you an option to change the width or color or style of that dotted underline. Best you can do is work in a larger font, which makes it slightly easier to see.
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Rosie Perera said:SteveF said:
I am running Windows 7 64 bit with Ofice 2007. I now have Smart Tags
BUT the underlining is so faint that it is very, very difficult to even see it.
Agreed. Not much you can do about it. This is Word's fault, and they apparently do not give you an option to change the width or color or style of that dotted underline. Best you can do is work in a larger font, which makes it slightly easier to see.
Hi Steve,
Rosie's right there isn't an option to change the width or color style, but I find it a little easier to see when I'm scaling the view to 110% of normal, with a 12 point font. Depending on the monitor, I often run 110% for that reason. I'm claiming it's the monitor, not my old eyes. ;-)
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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Bradley Grainger said:
three workarounds
Thanks again, Bradley! They're still working great!
I noticed a few minutes ago that I'm still producing a log each time I use them... I've already updated to 4.1 beta 13, & it didn't stop. Is the logging version now installed by default? Or do I need to manually reinstall the non-logging Smart Tag? If the latter, where would I find it?
Thanks again for all your help!
On a side note, I think I'd prefer to automatically start Logos (as L3 does) rather than having to remember to do start L4 before I use them. I'm sure others will feel differently, so if providing the option isn't a big deal I'd sure appreciate one!
Blessings!
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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BillS said:
On a side note, I think I'd prefer to automatically start Logos (as L3 does) rather than having to remember to do start L4 before I use them. I'm sure others will feel differently, so if providing the option isn't a big deal I'd sure appreciate one!
I'm sure they can put the option in the Smart Tag menu in Word[:)]
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Just to share, I have the smart tags working now.
Word 2010 32-bit on Win7 64-bit
Sorry if I'm asking a question already asked but will word 2010 ever get the drop down arrow like other smart tags?
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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Kevin A. Purcell said:
Sorry if I'm asking a question already asked but will word 2010 ever get the drop down arrow like other smart tags?
It's extremely unlikely; Microsoft changed the way Smart Tags work in Office 2010 (and also stated that they're deprecated, so they're likely to disappear entirely in a future release). For more information, see http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc179199.aspx.
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BillS said:
I noticed a few minutes ago that I'm still producing a log each time I use them... I've already updated to 4.1 beta 13, & it didn't stop. Is the logging version now installed by default? Or do I need to manually reinstall the non-logging Smart Tag? If the latter, where would I find it?
It's possible that the non-logging version didn't get re-registered, because we didn't actually update it between Beta 10 & 13. You can find it in your "Logos4\System" folder if you want to manually re-register it (with regsvr32).
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Bradley Grainger said:
It's possible that the non-logging version didn't get re-registered, because we didn't actually update it between Beta 10 & 13. You can find it in your "Logos4\System" folder if you want to manually re-register it (with regsvr32).
Hi Bradley,
2nd Edit: figured out I was in the wrong directory when I tried regsvr32, got it to work, so I've edited this post to remove that question.
But my laptop was having other problems, so I rebooted (hadn't for a couple of days). After reboot, logging continues. Here's a picture showing the info about the file in my L4 system folder:
As you can see, it appears to be the same test file we put in. What say you?
Thanks a bazillion for all your help!
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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BillS said:
As you can see, it appears to be the same test file we put in. What say you?
You should be able to get the official file back by deleting that one, then right-clicking %LOCALAPPDATA%\Logos4\Install\Installers\Logos4.msi and choosing Repair. (Make sure Word, Outlook, and other Office programs aren't running, so that they don't have the DLL open when you try to do this.)
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Bradley Grainger said:
You should be able to get the official file back by deleting that one, then right-clicking %LOCALAPPDATA%\Logos4\Install\Installers\Logos4.msi and choosing Repair. (Make sure Word, Outlook, and other Office programs aren't running, so that they don't have the DLL open when you try to do this.)
Thanks, Bradley! That appears to have done the trick in 2 ways:
- Dll for Smart Tag was recreated & lost the debug descriptor & has a new version/date for 9/8/10.
- No more log file.
I'm a happy camper!
Question: I forgot to check earlier... did we lose the ability to invoke the passage guide from Smart Tags? Not a big deal, but I enjoyed using it & would like to see it back.
And again, many thanks to you for all your help!
Blessings!
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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I typed John 3:16, then right clicked on the word John (the abbreviation worked too) then chose actions off the right-click menu and there were choices to copy or go to Logos and look at the passage. I have Word 2010, Logos 4, and Logos 3 loaded. When I chose the copy option Word opened Logos 3 - then I could copy the passage. So it worked, but not quite the same as I was use to. Seems to require Logos 3 be loaded.
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John A. English said:
Seems to require Logos 3 be loaded.
Earlier in this thread, I think, were instructions for turning OFF your L3 Smart Tag & turning ON your L4 Smart Tag. Sounds like your L3 Smart Tag is still the one operative. The L4 Smart Tag doesn't open L3 or L4 (tho' I'd like it to open L4).
Blessings!
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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John A. English said:
When I chose the copy option Word opened Logos 3 - then I could copy the passage. So it worked, but not quite the same as I was use to. Seems to require Logos 3 be loaded.
Is yours Smart Tag still opening L3?
In trying L4 Smart Tag's "Passage Guide" today, it consistently opened L3's passage guide! Can anyone else confirm? Do I need to report this as another bug?
Thanks!
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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BillS said:
In trying L4 Smart Tag's "Passage Guide" today, it consistently opened L3's passage guide!
Bill, this is the L4 Smart Tag options in Word 2007:-
Only the L3 Smart Tag has the Passage Guide option:-
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Hi Dave,
Thanks for responding. Today, I'm getting what you're getting. That makes me much less confident that I got L3 to run a PG from the L4 Smart Tag as I was doing my research, yesterday. (I DID have L3 PG open. But I'm no longer so sure how I opened it... Maybe I had a senior moment & keyed in the reference range instead of doing it from Word as I thought I had when I posted.)
I checked this morning: I did NOT have the L3 Smart Tag enabled, only the L4 Smart Tag.
I think I'm going to go have more coffee.... [C]
Thanks for the response & sorry for any confusion...
Blessings!
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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BillS said:
Thanks for the response & sorry for any confusion...
no worries ... (I have my moments as well).
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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