Logos Is Too Expensive
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Joel Reed said:
Are Christians here to make lots of money through ministry, or help other Christians grow in their faith?
I think both of them. This may not speak to all Christians. But as long as you have mentioned Christians The more money they get the more can produce valuable materials. Regarding Faithlife if they profit more we get advantage from it as well. The company will be stable to continue and will increase in quality in its products. I can say that they are on a mission to spread the Gospel by occupying the ministers with a great valuable Bible Software.
Blessings in Christ.
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Daniel Shipton said:
I agree. The new merger with Wordsearch forced me back to try the free Logos they offered. They haven't transferred part of my library. The use of logos is far less user friendly than Wordsearch. And I can't write my sermon on the program unless I want to pay way too much.
Not only is cost too much but including at least a basic writing program within the document and not merely a verse note should be standard and not part of a higher package, or they should have allowed incoming customers with Wordsearch to come in at the silver level.
It's all about the money. Aquiring Wordsearch is a business move to take out competitive program without improving or offering better cost at all.
Daniel, I think your critique should be for LifeWay. Why did LifeWay acquire it Wordsearch? What has LifeWay done with it? I doubt that Wordsearch has been that great a competitor to Logos. I have Wordsearch and rarely used it. As far as sermon preparation goes, I’ve never gotten into the Logos word processing or sermon notes or whatever it is that Logos has. I may, but I’ve found Pages to do all I need.
Frankly, I’ve found Logos very much worth the money and am happy to see Wordsearch come over. I think it’s a win for WS users.Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Bill Moore said:
Frankly, I’ve found Logos very much worth the money and am happy to see Wordsearch come over. I think it’s a win for WS users.
Blessings in Christ.
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Tes said:Joel Reed said:
Are Christians here to make lots of money through ministry, or help other Christians grow in their faith?
I think both of them. This may not speak to all Christians. But as long as you have mentioned Christians The more money they get the more can produce valuable materials. Regarding Faithlife if they profit more we get advantage from it as well. The company will be stable to continue and will increase in quality in its products. I can say that they are on a mission to spread the Gospel by occupying the ministers with a great valuable Bible Software.
Would that improvement include a dating service, TV channel, and books on UFO's?
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Bill Moore said:
Daniel, I think your critique should be for LifeWay. Why did LifeWay acquire it Wordsearch? What has LifeWay done with it?
Lifeway acquired WS in 2011, apparently. Ironically, that was just after Logos began producing the Logos4-8 series. Major, major investment. (Be quiet, Libby!)
I think 'price'y' will always dog Logos, even though the cost per purchased book is quite low. I'm choosey, avoid the packages, go for academic (Brill!), and still end up at $6 per book. Less than my novels on Amazon.
This thread will only die with FL!
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Rene Atchley said:
Would that improvement include a dating service, TV channel, and books on UFO's?
Absolutely optimistic it is only a matter of time.
Blessings in Christ.
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Daniel Shipton said:
they should have allowed incoming customers with Wordsearch to come in at the silver level.
I don't want to beat a dead horse but I've seen this argument and variants of it all over the forums since the merger and I must say it baffles me. Faithlife buying WS allows users to continue accessing their books into the near future. If they didn't buy it, where would the books go? I've seen companies buy up old companies and let them die in the past.
I'm no Stan but I feel like Logos is bending over backward trying to accommodate users with their books and perks and other whistles where they could have just said we now own it and transferred what we could, you figure out the rest. Could this transition have been smoother... yes most definitely. Change is hard, I get it. I use both WS and Logos. I do prefer Logos but WS had resources I couldn't get in Logos and they gave away free books every Friday so I had both
. If I have one piece of advice to WS users is to just relax and be patient. Faithlife is great in some aspects and slow in others. From looking at the forums, they are working late nights trying to get everyone up and running. I cannot imagine the work needed to review every WS users library and match them to resources on their side. Once the dust settles, I'm confident you'll like the software. PS: WordSearch is still operational and will be into the near future. It just wont' receive any updates so there is no rush.
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Yesterday I noticed that my WS items weren't transferring into my Logos program which was a bit annoying. So I called customer service and merged the different two different accounts (different email addresses) which a few hours later ended up downloading over 1300 items into Logos. In essence my WS money wasn't lost by simply spending time working with FL people to minimize my cost for switching and maximizing useability of Logos. Now I have to spend several hours trying to figure out how to use this beast for my increased comfort...as opposed to just opening up WS and using it...there's a lesson for the elves at FL.
My prior post was my attempt to be a bit satirical because, as I recall, all those items have been tried by FL in an attempt ( I suppose) to introduce new revenue streams...with less than ideal results. Is this beast too expensive? Well yes...as leadership has indicated it's a "business" which is now a near monopoly. When I own all the crops whose to stop me from charging whatever price I want for the corn?
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Start here: https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360036135712-1-Get-Oriented-in-LogosRene Atchley said:Yesterday I noticed that my WS items weren't transferring into my Logos program which was a bit annoying. So I called customer service and merged the different two different accounts (different email addresses) which a few hours later ended up downloading over 1300 items into Logos. In essence my WS money wasn't lost by simply spending time working with FL people to minimize my cost for switching and maximizing useability of Logos. Now I have to spend several hours trying to figure out how to use this beast for my increased comfort...as opposed to just opening up WS and using it...there's a lesson for the elves at FL.
My prior post was my attempt to be a bit satirical because, as I recall, all those items have been tried by FL in an attempt ( I suppose) to introduce new revenue streams...with less than ideal results. Is this beast too expensive? Well yes...as leadership has indicated it's a "business" which is now a near monopoly. When I own all the crops whose to stop me from charging whatever price I want for the corn?
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Rene Atchley said:
which is now a near monopoly
I imagine you read Bob Pritchett's comment in the thread on last man standing in the Bible software marketplace:
I think of our space as incredibly competitive -- while QuickVerse and BibleWorks and PC Study Bible have faded as competitors, YouVersion, BibleHub, and others have come on strong, and new mobile apps and web sites seem to spring up every month.
People haven't stopped studying the Bible, and they haven't stopped building new tools to help!
The online competition is growing and I think we'd all agree that it will continue to grow. How much that impacts Faithlife and Accordance is to be seen, but I don't think Bob feels he can now sit on his near-monopoly and rest,
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Mark Smith said:Rene Atchley said:
which is now a near monopoly
I imagine you read Bob Pritchett's comment in the thread on last man standing in the Bible software marketplace:
I think of our space as incredibly competitive -- while QuickVerse and BibleWorks and PC Study Bible have faded as competitors, YouVersion, BibleHub, and others have come on strong, and new mobile apps and web sites seem to spring up every month.
People haven't stopped studying the Bible, and they haven't stopped building new tools to help!
The online competition is growing and I think we'd all agree that it will continue to grow. How much that impacts Faithlife and Accordance is to be seen, but I don't think Bob feels he can now sit on his near-monopoly and rest,
Increased competition by fewer competitors in the traffic lane dominated by Logos....makes sense I suppose. Of course, as a business, when you have maxed out profitability and market share the best way to acquire new market share is to buy it...i.e. Standard Oil and U.S. Steel and early Ford. Indeed FL won't on the Silver Mountain when there is more money to be made, or bought, in the market place.
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Rene Atchley said:
Now I have to spend several hours trying to figure out how to use this beast for my increased comfort...as opposed to just opening up WS and using it...there's a lesson for the elves at FL.
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Honestly, I can say thats not true.
You can see from my signature line that I've bought into the logos system pretty heavily. Tens of thousands of dollars.
Yet, I've average less than a dollar a title (I track it in a spreadsheet its exactly $.87, that includes things like nicot/nt that were quite pricey. so if you watch the sales, if you get the free books, if you take advantage of good deals on base packages, you can do quite well.L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,
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abondservant said:
Honestly, I can say thats not true.
You can see from my signature line that I've bought into the logos system pretty heavily. Tens of thousands of dollars.
Yet, I've average less than a dollar a title (I track it in a spreadsheet its exactly $.87, that includes things like nicot/nt that were quite pricey. so if you watch the sales, if you get the free books, if you take advantage of good deals on base packages, you can do quite well.Indeed. In my case, with the exception of needing to spend down in July, my library accumulations were done largely through years of watching and waiting for sales of dynamically priced items.
It's not perfect of course. Sometimes items feel a bit over the top, price-wise (which is rough if you need resource X right now), and I imagine the people joining us from WordSearch are in a different situation as they wait for things to get sorted.
And of course, I might be singing a different tune when Logos 9 comes out [;)]
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I am also amazed that FaithLife has a web page which matches up all of my WordSearch titles with my login. I think FaithLife staff working on this has made a very smooth transition. Thanks FaithLife.
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Oh I agree. Seminary had me buying 50 and 100$ titles. That stung quite a bit.David Wanat said:abondservant said:Honestly, I can say thats not true.
You can see from my signature line that I've bought into the logos system pretty heavily. Tens of thousands of dollars.
Yet, I've average less than a dollar a title (I track it in a spreadsheet its exactly $.87, that includes things like nicot/nt that were quite pricey. so if you watch the sales, if you get the free books, if you take advantage of good deals on base packages, you can do quite well.Indeed. In my case, with the exception of needing to spend down in July, my library accumulations were done largely through years of watching and waiting for sales of dynamically priced items.
It's not perfect of course. Sometimes items feel a bit over the top, price-wise (which is rough if you need resource X right now), and I imagine the people joining us from WordSearch are in a different situation as they wait for things to get sorted.
And of course, I might be singing a different tune when Logos 9 comes out
But on the whole, at the end of it, my average book price has been quite reasonable over the years. Between Journal Bundles on prepub (I think Logos has more of those than WS), Base packages, Pre pub, and community pricing, or march madness, or the 3-4 free books they give out each month, or any of the other regular sales they have Logos books have been quite reasonable. On balance.
That made the sting of the NICOT/NT set a little easier.
The best commentaries sale is one that I like as well. Targeted, and on sale L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,
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This is an interesting thread. I too agree that the software is overpriced. As a small business owner who was crushed by COVID, a father of three little kids, and trying to establish a home church in an area undeserved by churches, it is hard to fathom spending $1000 to purchase the software that includes tools for building sermons. That is a shame, because as a believer I do not charge people to learn about God. I feel that is contrary to the bible.
I understand that the makers of the software have put tremendous time and effort into this software and want to make a return. However I also feel that as another person mentioned, often Christian business charge far more then secular business for similar services. A good example of this is that Christian based couples counseling retreats are often $4000+ for a weekend while a secular service is only hundreds. I hear from these Christian organizations that they do it because they have a love for Gods people and have a burning desire to help them. If this is true then why do they charge 10 times as much as secular organizations? I do not think this is what God would want from his people.
Imagine if Jesus charged high fees for his teachings and for healing people?
I do not say this to degrade Logos, but to use it as an example of how I think there is a problem with the profiteering of God and teaching people about him. Yes again I will reiterate that I understand this company needs to make money to operate, but how much? To me it seems that they could approach this like an outreach to encourage people to learn and spread the gospel. Think open source software. Linux is a good example which as an operating system takes immense development and maintenance, however it is free for anyone, because people pitch in and do the work as a donation to the community.
I am happy to pay for the software, but $1000 is hard to pay on my own right now. I guess the bottom with line for Logos is money and not building up believers which is a bit disappointing. Hope that does not offend anyone, just putting out another point of view.
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Dave said:
I am happy to pay for the software, but $1000 is hard to pay on my own right now.
Welcome to the forums, Dave. Did you know that there is a starter package for $294.99? There is also the ability to get a more basic package as well as a Fundamentals package for $99
As far as I am aware, you can also get a Subscription package
I am just trying to point out that there are different levels of this program.
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Dave said:
This is an interesting thread. I too agree that the software is overpriced. As a small business owner who was crushed by COVID, a father of three little kids, and trying to establish a home church in an area undeserved by churches, it is hard to fathom spending $1000 to purchase the software that includes tools for building sermons. That is a shame, because as a believer I do not charge people to learn about God. I feel that is contrary to the bible.
Would you be willing to purchase all of the books included in whichever package you are looking at on Amazon? Publishers charge a particular price for their books, and Logos charges extra for their added value. I know that the "added value" is a sticking point for some, but it is what makes their software so useful.
Pick a package, find the books that you would actually use at amazon or another competitor, add that up, and see if the price is higher than the base package you are looking at. I'm guessing it wouldn't be. Now, consider all of the extra you are getting by purchasing Logos books as opposed to printed books. If you still can't afford it, then you wouldn't have been able to afford it in any format, so why call out Logos for charging less (in the case of base package discounts) than you would have to pay from the publisher directly or amazon?
In the case of individual books, sometimes Logos is more expensive than I want to pay, so I wait for a sale or for those resources to be included in a collection or base package.
Logos doesn't owe any of us anything except to provide what we agreed to pay for, which admittedly in a few instances they have fallen short on that. The "Christian" publishers don't give breaks on their books because they need to continue to be sustainable, and I expect Faithlife to be no different.
Disclaimer: I hate using messaging, texting, and email for real communication. If anything that I type to you seems like anything other than humble and respectful, then I have not done a good job typing my thoughts.
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Dave said:
I am happy to pay for the software, but $1000 is hard to pay on my own right now.
Mark said:Welcome to the forums, Dave. Did you know that there is a starter package for $294.99? There is also the ability to get a more basic package as well as a Fundamentals package for $99
+1 [Y] Welcome [:D]
Thankful free Logos 9 Basic & Verbum 9 Basic includes Bibles with Reverse Interlinears so can use my favorite feature of visual filter highlighting to "see" range of Greek verbal expression => https://wiki.logos.com/Extended_Tips_for_Highlighting_and_Visual_Filters#Examples_of_visual_filters
Thankful for Faithlife enabling free sharing of documents so visual filters can be copied.
Thankful for Logos 9 Fundamentals offering excellent Bible Study value plus can have special discounted pricing from $99.99 (so Logos 9 Fundamentals purchase can reduce dynamic upgrade pricing of more expensive Base Packages beyond cost of Fundamentals purchase).
Thankful for many free books, which can also reduce dynamic upgrade pricing. Logos Wiki has => Free Logos Books !! Thankful for annual Birthday coupon [:)]
Thankful for Academic discounts. Logos 9 Academic Standard includes Sermon Builder. If do not qualify for Academic, then Silver or higher purchase includes Sermon Builder. Unowned Base Packages can be sorted by price => https://www.logos.com/search?page=1&sortBy=PriceLow&limit=60&filters=status-live_Status%2Bproducttype-basepackages_Product%20Type&ownership=unowned&geographicAvailability=all (14 English Silver Base Packages have different resource contents)
Mark said:As far as I am aware, you can also get a Subscription package
Essentials subscription is $149.90 per year (or $14.99 per month) => https://connect.faithlife.com/pricing that includes Sermon Manager & Sermon Preaching Mode. Verbum Now is $ 99.99 per year => https://verbum.com/product/51656/verbum-now that includes Homily Manager ...
Dave said:This is an interesting thread. I too agree that the software is overpriced. As a small business owner who was crushed by COVID, a father of three little kids, and trying to establish a home church in an area undeserved by churches, it is hard to fathom spending $1000 to purchase the software that includes tools for building sermons. That is a shame, because as a believer I do not charge people to learn about God. I feel that is contrary to the bible.
Thankful for Faithlife Group => Homeschool Families
Profit = Revenue - Expenses
CEO reply on 1 Nov 2012 included profit margin insights => https://community.logos.com/forums/p/58026/413124.aspx#413124
Bob Pritchett said:Jacques said:He feels they should be ashamed for this kind of profit-margin, it's not reasonable.
What would a reasonable profit margin be? What profit margin does your friend think Logos has?
For what it's worth, I got our third-quarter financials earlier this week. For 2012 so far, the Logos profit margin was just about 0.38%. (Not 38%. Less than half of one percent.
Now I'm not looking for sympathy -- we're fine. It's better than that most years, and the first three quarters of this year reflect a lot of investment in Logos 5 that hadn't yet generated any revenue. (That's what we're doing now!) I expect we'll end the year with solid single-digit profitability, and we've beaten that in the past.
But the point is, we have to sell something in order to be here to serve you into the future. It's insanely expensive to develop software, especially when you have to develop the same software on Mac, Windows, Android/Kindle, iPhone/iPad, Web (and now Windows 8 RT!) simultaneously. While offering free support.
So I'll take the criticism that we're always trying to sell you more books -- it's true, and it's the only way we get paid. Though, at every upgrade cycle, it does condemn us to a lot of impassioned forum conversations about the injustice of upgrade bundles. :-)
I do welcome your input on a solution. Maybe the "free software" concept was a bad idea? Few other products I have have been offering free engine updates -- in any form -- since 1995. I've bought Word, Excel, Windows, Mac OS, etc. many times in those 17 years. Should Logos just move to paid upgrades, and stop making so many books? (It might be hard to make that change after all these years, but it's an interesting question.)
I appreciate your investing in our product, and I hope that you'll continue to believe it has been a good investment. And I want you to know that we're working hard to serve you better AND ensure that we're here for decades to come to support the investment you have made. Input on how to do that is always welcome.
(My favorite idea... just convince every Christian in America to pay $3 per month... then we could offer everybody all the content, support, and continued maintenance for a very low price! The only trick is getting everyone signed up at once...) :-)
-- Bob
Thankful for later CEO reply on 11 Nov 2015 => https://community.logos.com/forums/p/118786/779521.aspx#779521 about payment plan changes that included:
Bob Pritchett said:Yes, like many businesses paid over time we can take our receivables to a bank and borrow against them, but you can't borrow against the whole balance (more like 60-75%), and now you're also paying interest (thankfully low right now), etc.
This is why credit cards exist, and why many products sold with time payments have another company manage the payments. It's because time payments is its own business... and while a producer like Faithlife can 'do a little bit', if it becomes too big a part of their business, they have to either reign it in or push it off on another company whose financial model -- and backing -- is designed for it.
I'm sure you're thinking that we can 'make it up in volume' or 'once it starts going payments from last year will cover costs for this year', and that's all true, to a point -- except that if your profits aren't outrageous (ours aren't) and your growth isn't a rocket ship (ours isn't) and you aren't rolling around in excess cash (we aren't) and don't have a venture capital fund backing you (we don't) and you can't borrow 100% of your receivables (we can't) and you are deferring revenue but not expenses, you can hit a math wall.
Unfortunately when revenue slows down, then personnel are let go (reduce expenses) to keep Faithlife profitable (Personnel changes at Faithlife were layoffs needed for corporation to remain profitable). Thankful for recent trend of more sales during COVID.
Recommend reading => Fire Someone Today by Bob Pritchett that includes profitable insight:
A profitable business can stay in business while unprofitable business disappears: e.g. Borders (after nearly 40 years of being in business)
Thankful for many friendly forum & Faithlife discussions: have learned a lot plus have a lot to learn. Thankful for many Faithlife employees, including CEO, interacting with forum discussions
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Joseph Turner said:
Pick a package, find the books that you would actually use at amazon or another competitor, add that up, and see if the price is higher than the base package you are looking at. I'm guessing it wouldn't be.
This should have been "I'm guessing it would be." My point being that if you add up the amazon cost of the books you want from the base package, Logos would be cheaper, seemingly indicating that they are not "too expensive."
Disclaimer: I hate using messaging, texting, and email for real communication. If anything that I type to you seems like anything other than humble and respectful, then I have not done a good job typing my thoughts.
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Joel, I 100% agree with you. The new Starter Logos 10 with 30% discount is more than I earn in a month. I have been using Logos since 1997 version 2.1 and religiously worked my but of to upgrade, but as an Evangelist in South Africa I can't afford it anymore. I have been recording typos in various books and even wondered if Logos deserves to know. If the users need to know I might distribute it on the WEB. I sometimes wonder if Bob and team remember those early days. DOS/Windows. Some verses [ESV]. I wonder if 2 Kings 22:7 and Eccles 12:9-14 applies to Faith Life
Here in South Africa, we are some days between 2 and 8 hours without of electricity and thus no internet connections. The exchange rate today is US$1 = ZAR17.44.
I sold my paper library to one of the Seminaries and believe it will be cheaper to do another Diploma in Bible Teaching than invest further in Logos.
At 4327 resources over 25 years I think it is enough as Solomon points out in Eccles 12:13 "The end of the matter; all has been heard. "Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man"
I went back to my paper Bible that my parents gave me on 29/01/1967 and the handful of resources around it. As I work through the Bible with the Holy Spirit leading, I am yet to be lost for words. God always keeps His promises and I experience Col 4:2-6 daily. I sum up my existence and dependance on the LORD with Pray (1 Thessalonians 5:17–21, Ephesians 6:18), Wait (Psalm 27:14 (KJV 1900)), Trust (Proverbs 3:5–6).
I am thankful and peaceful, grace been the reason, yes, my inner being is at peace.
Love
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I do not believe Logos is too expensive. Have you compared the price of paper books of the standard commentaries and language tools? Careful shopping will enable you to get the Logos versions of these tools often at a savings over the paper copies. The Logos versions are far more useful than paper resources to me.
I remember as a young seminary student in the 1970's that I used to sell blood plasma to buy paper copies of Kittell, and other books that I needed. I still have books that I bought with blood on my shelves some 40 years ago.
My income has recently dropped considerably since I retired as a senior pastor. I now have to shop very carefully for books, and I just cannot buy as much. But that doesn't mean that Logos is charging more than is reasonable. Logos has to pay the publisher for the right to sell their books. I remain a satisfied customer. Who knows? I may sell plasma again.
If you really think Logos is overcharging, there are many good resources available for free on the internet.
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Doing any kind of business here in the USA is expensive. Labor is extremely high and many times due to lower work ethics you don't get what you pay for.
Prior to becoming a minister I worked heavily in sales and I learned as a closer there were many people groups that felt entitled to free or discounted products and that chief among those groups were ministers and police. Argue if you'd like but that proved real.
Later as a tentmaking vocation I built and sold - and mpry niche market were ministers, churches and non-profits. Don't know how I survived and raised a family but for the grace of God.
Bible software has been a blessing in my life and in the kingdom of God. I abhor cheap Bibles, I love leather and Smith sewn, gold and silver gilding, ribbons, etc.
I will pay the price for excellent tools of the trade. I will search for and use every discount, free resource and whatever I can find to make it a more affordable experience, but I believe the producers of Bible software deserve their profits.
From the very first time of opening up four Bibles in the early Windows OS for text comparisons I have been attached to Bible software.
May the Logos producers continue to be blessed in the furtherance of The Gospel.
peace
i
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Human Bosman said:
At 4327 resources over 25 years I think it is enough as Solomon points out in Eccles 12:13 "The end of the matter; all has been heard. "Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man"
I like your attitude. Enough is indeed enough. And I suspect, for many, enough will have to be enough.
Logos' (Faithlife's) problem is that they have to pay people. Month after month. Can't stop. Their second problem is their software was envisioned as the 'Cadillac' of Bible software. Which means upper-middle-class money'd customers ... just short of the land owners in the New Testament.
I've been lucky; started early, so the prices were often low. Unfortunately, now prices on Amazon (books; religious; technical) are sky-rocketing. Can't afford ... Faithlife prepubs are half the price. So, wait .... wait ... wait.
But maybe that's the lesson. Enough is probably enough.
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DMB said:Human Bosman said:
At 4327 resources over 25 years I think it is enough as Solomon points out in Eccles 12:13 "The end of the matter; all has been heard. "Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man"
I like your attitude. Enough is indeed enough. And I suspect, for many, enough will have to be enough.
Logos' (Faithlife's) problem is that they have to pay people. Month after month. Can't stop. Their second problem is their software was envisioned as the 'Cadillac' of Bible software. Which means upper-middle-class money'd customers ... just short of the land owners in the New Testament.
I've been lucky; started early, so the prices were often low. Unfortunately, now prices on Amazon (books; religious; technical) are sky-rocketing. Can't afford ... Faithlife prepubs are half the price. So, wait .... wait ... wait.
But maybe that's the lesson. Enough is probably enough.
Excellent post. This is the first year since I began with Logos with version 3 that I’ve not bought a library package. I’ve got more quality books than I’ll ever use as it is. But Logos employees need to be proper paid. And, unfortunately, we’re in a period of high inflation.
One has to purchase wisely, and that will be contingent to one’s situation. I don’t think that Logos is too expensive, but I do think that many churches are a bit miserly in their financial support of pastors (my church excluded), and that helps foster the entitlement reputation that the ministry has.
Wisdom, discernment, and contentment are needed.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Years ago, I really, really wanted Logos. But it was expensive. God provided and today I have a fine library. I would never trade the library back for the money. I got a great deal and made a wise investment in my continuing education, my preaching preparation, and my sheer joy in discovering ideas.
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Logos represents the foundation of what I would have purchased anyway if I ever found a way to go to seminary and since I mostly can't wrestle with piles of physical books like I once did.
It's still dirt cheap to access thousands of years of scholarly research and sweat of so many devoted saints who cared enough to share their harvest with us.
I am just thankful that some saints thought me worthy enough to help pay for some of it and God is still working through my hands to pay for the rest. I count myself blessed.
The mind of man is the mill of God, not to grind chaff, but wheat. Thomas Manton | Study hard, for the well is deep, and our brains are shallow. Richard Baxter
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