Don't want to see 100's of logos books

Robert Ellis

I purchased some new books today in my ipad

then signed in to vyrso but the list of books was buried my by my logos books

I would like it to only show the books I bought - as I can use logos for logos books

I could perhaps have the option to move books across

but I would like to only see the new books I bought for reading

thank you

Rob E

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Rosie Perera

Robert, you can tag them as "Vyrso" in Logos (sort Library by Last Updated column so you can more easily select the Vyrso books you just downloaded, and then you can tag them all in one go). Then I think (I hope) eventually in Vyrso (it doesn't work for me yet) you will be able to type a tag such as Vyrso into the library filter box and it should find just those books which you've tagged Vyrso. But don't quote me on it. And I think for now you're stuck.

Graham Criddle

Robert

Try typing "edition:ebook" into the search field - this should just give you the Vryso books.

Graham

Patrick S.

I purchased some new books today in my ipad

then signed in to vyrso but the list of books was buried my by my logos books

I would like it to only show the books I bought - as I can use logos for logos books

I could perhaps have the option to move books across

but I would like to only see the new books I bought for reading

I agree 100% - I think Logos needs to think this through carefully. If I buy a Christian novel or inspirational title to read on my iPad I don't want it buried in the thousands of titles from my Logos Bible Software 4 - which is a dedicated study resource.

IF Logos is going to put Logos Bible Software resources in Vyrso (why—when I already have the iPad Logos Bible app) then they need to put in an easy 'switch' you can flick to hide all the Logos Bible Software resources.

Robert Ellis

Hi Patrick

I do agree - hopefully its and early design which they will sort as they are very good at what they do.

Rob

Bohuslav Wojnar

then they need to put in an easy 'switch' you can flick to hide all the Logos Bible Software resources.

I agree with "switch" to be bale to see or not to see Logos books in Vyrso. I want however to have the option to see those books as I use Logos for Bible study and Vyrso for plain reading of books, both Vyrso and Logos ones.

spitzerpl

they need to put in an easy 'switch' you can
flick to hide all the Logos Bible Software resources.

I agree. My solution would be an option on the selection screen to say
"show only resources in this collection." Then in Logos one could set up a collection that has a rule string to include all their Vyrso books and they can add individual ones from their Logos library. Of course in order for this to work their must be something in the metadata that says "this is a Vyrso resource." (edition:eBook did not work for me).

Patrick S.

they need to put in an easy 'switch' you can
flick to hide all the Logos Bible Software resources.

I agree. My solution would be an option on the selection screen to say
"show only resources in this collection." Then in Logos one could set up a collection that has a rule string to include all their Vyrso books and they can add individual ones from their Logos library. Of course in order for this to work their must be something in the metadata that says "this is a Vyrso resource." (edition:eBook did not work for me).

Hi - I feel it is a bigger question Logos needs to consider. What is the purpose of Vyrso - of itself and in relation to its existing Logos Bible Software platform?

I see (and their promotions seem to say also) that Vyrso is primarily a 'Christian eBookstore'. This bookstore has broad range of titles from kids books (http://vyrso.com/product/10643/gods-little-princess-treasury) to heavy duty Theology. All obviously with a Christian basis. No problem but... what goes on Vyrso website and what goes on Logos website. Is there any intersection of titles? If so why?

It gets worse — all titles you buy on Vryso website end up in your Logos Bible Software. Now that's ok if it is a respected theological treatise, but do you really want to see Gigi's pretty pink thoughts coming up in your (cough) scholarly Logos searches??

I've tested this (not with 'There's a Princess in Me' !!) I just bought a John MacArthur title in Vyrso and it got pulled into Logos 4. Yeah you can put the book in the 'hidden resources' box in Logos, but do we really want to be bothered having to do that?? No.

I'm sure that Logos will address these sort of roll out glitches — I hope they do — soon. I'll get tired of putting Gigi titles into the sin bin [:)]

JT (alabama24)

Rob -

In your library, search for "ebook," not "edition:ebook." See screen shot:

spitzerpl

In your library, search for "ebook," not "edition:ebook." See screen shot:

That doesn't work in L4 PC version. Wish it did..

JT (alabama24)

Halo -

I meant for the mobile app. However, I did just try it on my L4 library and viola! Glad to know the MAC VERSION has a leg up. [:)] (Sorry its not working for you [:S])

Patrick S.

all titles you buy on Vryso website end up in your Logos Bible Software.

I just bought a John MacArthur title in Vyrso and it got pulled into Logos 4. Yeah you can put the book in the 'hidden resources' box in Logos, but do we really want to be bothered having to do that?? No.

Hmmm — more problematic. I bought about five more titles on Vryso and next time I opened Logos 4 they got pulled down automatically (no choice), then I had to restart Logos 4, then when I restarted Logos 4 then commenced indexing the books. While they were being indexing I dragged all five titles into hidden resources and restarted. But next time I open Logos 4 the titles were still in the library.

They can't be removed from Logos 4 while they are being indexed. Also will their content still stay in the Logos 4 indices or will it be removed?

spitzerpl

They can't be removed from Logos 4 while they are being indexed. Also will their content still stay in the Logos 4 indices or will it be removed?

I'm not sure, but if you want to make sure you have a clean index type "rebuild Index" in the command line and let it run overnight.

Ted Hans

I want however to have the option to see those books as I use Logos for Bible study and Vyrso for plain reading of books, both Vyrso and Logos ones.

I would like to see my Vyrso books in my Logos library. For me I would not invest in Vyrso books If Logos decides to remove it from my Logos library.

Jacob Hantla

Personally I think the value of a Vyrso book is its integration into Logos. I love having my Vyrso books in Logos, easily searchable, taggable, markupable, etc.

I think it may be a good idea for Logos to enable an option in the Vyrso app to only show the ebooks for those who want that. Then those who want that could use Vyrso app for reading ebooks and Logos app for reading others. For my own use, there isn't always a sharp distinction between the kind of books I foresee myself purchasing in Vyrso in comparison to many of the Logos books I own.

So I just use tags, collections, and searching to organize and access my library.

NB.Mick

I did just try it on my L4 library and viola! Glad to know the MAC VERSION has a leg up. (Sorry its not working for you )

Huh? Works fine on Windows:

Patrick S.

I want however to have the option to see those books as I use Logos for Bible study and Vyrso for plain reading of books, both Vyrso and Logos ones.

I would like to see my Vyrso books in my Logos library. For me I would not invest in Vyrso books If Logos decides to remove it from my Logos library.

Personally I think the value of a Vyrso book is its integration into Logos. I love having my Vyrso books in Logos, easily searchable, taggable, markupable, etc.

Hear what you all are saying — thing is you are all assuming the titles are theological and/or a match for Logos 4. No argument there — as long as you can also accept that some people would not want to see — cooking books; exercise books; children's books etc. — in their Logos library nor have to go through hoops to constantly exclude books of that sort purchased from Vyrso website from Logos 4.

I think it may be a good idea for Logos to enable an option in the Vyrso app to only show the ebooks for those who want that. Then those who want that could use Vyrso app for reading ebooks and Logos app for reading others.

The need is in both the Vyrso & Logos 4 apps, more so for Logos 4. I trust Logos will work out a clean solution.

Jacob Hantla

Easy solution for Logos 4 is to make collections to allow you search keeping your Vyrso and non-Vyrso books separate

Vyrso books:

Non-Vyrso books

Then a search of your non-Vyrso books would just look like this:

Also, you can limit by collections when searching in Logos for iOS, so these collections could help you.

Personally, since my vyrso books are all theological, I can't see any reason why I'd use these collections, but for those who are asking about how to keep them separate, this seems like an easy solution to me.

Ted Hans

Personally, since my vyrso books are all theological, I can't see any reason why I'd use these collections

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Personally, since my vyrso books are all theological, I can't see any reason why I'd use these collections, but for those who are asking about how to keep them separate, this seems like an easy solution to me.

Thanks Jacob for your thoughts & suggestion on this issue.

Todd Phillips

Personally I think the value of a Vyrso
book is its integration into Logos. I love having my Vyrso books in
Logos, easily searchable, taggable, markupable, etc.

Aye.
That's the benefit of Vyrso to me--a quicker, cheaper way to get books
in my library. If there was an ebook that for some reason I didn't
want in Logos, I would buy the Kindle version.

While I can see that folks wouldn't want the clutter in the library, I don't see that it would be a problem with search results. If a children's book came up at the top of my ranked search results, then there is probably a good reason for it, and it would be good to see why it is there.

Simon’s Brother

I want however to have the option to see those books as I use Logos for Bible study and Vyrso for plain reading of books, both Vyrso and Logos ones.

I would like to see my Vyrso books in my Logos library. For me I would not invest in Vyrso books If Logos decides to remove it from my Logos library.

Personally I think the value of a Vyrso book is its integration into Logos. I love having my Vyrso books in Logos, easily searchable, taggable, markupable, etc.

Hear what you all are saying — thing is you are all assuming the titles are theological and/or a match for Logos 4. No argument there — as long as you can also accept that some people would not want to see — cooking books; exercise books; children's books etc. — in their Logos library nor have to go through hoops to constantly exclude books of that sort purchased from Vyrso website from Logos 4.

I think it may be a good idea for Logos to enable an option in the Vyrso app to only show the ebooks for those who want that. Then those who want that could use Vyrso app for reading ebooks and Logos app for reading others.

The need is in both the Vyrso & Logos 4 apps, more so for Logos 4. I trust Logos will work out a clean solution.

I'm with Ted and Jacob. They should be in Logos 4.

I tag all vyrso books as trade - so I don't forget the resource is a not a full logos resource and lacks full tagging

If I want to search whole library, I have a collection that includes everything except bibles. With vyrso books I don't want search I simply tag them as ebook and can them exclude resources with that tag from this collection.

Dealing with them on the Logos 4 side is just a matter of thinking through library management.

With the Logos / Vyrso apps I think isssues will be resolved by being able to both tagging and collections for searches which is not currently possible. I wouldn't want a blanket exclusion of resource types from either app. Like some others I use vyrso just for general reading purposes.

Jacob Hantla

I tag all vyrso books as trade - so I don't forget the resource is a not a full logos resource and lacks full tagging

Vyrso books are already tagged as ebook (actually that's done through a new field called edition, but the function is the same)

Dave Hooton

They can't be removed from Logos 4 while they are being indexed. Also will their content still stay in the Logos 4 indices or will it be removed?

I'm not sure, but if you want to make sure you have a clean index type "rebuild Index" in the command line and let it run overnight.

You have to rebuild index to completely get rid of hidden books (if you temporarily hide a book there is no expensive indexing when you unhide!).

fgh

I haven't tried this, but can't those who intend to buy a lot of cook books and childrens' books and definitely want their Logos and Vyrso libraries separate simply open a separate account to buy such books from? (Think first, though! Logos is definitely not going to be happy if they start getting loads of requests to merge accounts or move individual books from one account to another!)

That said, I would very much want the ability to (just like naming something My Passage Guide automatically makes it the default PG) tag things as Hidden and thereby have them automatically excluded from collections, searches and the Library view. And then a simple check box in Library to turn the filter on and off. (Actually I already have a lot of things tagged as Hidden, but currently I have to manually twist search strings when I want to exclude them.)

NB.Mick

Easy solution for Logos 4 is to make collections to allow you search keeping your Vyrso and non-Vyrso books separate

Vyrso books:

Non-Vyrso books

Then a search of your non-Vyrso books would just look like this:

Also, you can limit by collections when searching in Logos for iOS, so these collections could help you.

Personally, since my vyrso books are all theological, I can't see any reason why I'd use these collections, but for those who are asking about how to keep them separate, this seems like an easy solution to me.

I think, the problem is not with Vyrso versus non-Vyrso but with the content of the book. This is something that's not adressed to a deep enough level by the Logos-supplied metadata. I have tagged "the Facade" and "Hood" with a tag "fiction" and thus now have a collection "fiction" and another one "non-fiction" which is my entire library minus the "fiction" collection.

Thus, due to the dynamic nature of collections, should Logos release the "Complete works of C.S.Lewis" bundle, I can tag the Narnia-books as fiction and they won't clog up a search for "Lion". It would be nice if the tagging was auto-supplied by Logos, but I think I can handle that without employing a librarian.

Ronald Quick

I would like to see my Vyrso books in my Logos library. For me I would not invest in Vyrso books If Logos decides to remove it from my Logos library.

I strongly agree - one of the main values I see with Vyrso and Logos is having all my books together. If they separate them, then I would stop buying Vyrso books.

I also agree with the above posts that I do not want to see Gigi comments show up in a search next to Charles Spurgeon.

Mike Childs

I would like to see my Vyrso books in my Logos library. For me I would not invest in Vyrso books If Logos decides to remove it from my Logos library.

I agree Ted. I can see myself buying something by Martyn Lloyd-Jones, or some like him, in Vyrso. I would certainly want that in my Logos Library, too.