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Fresh developments if any?
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Lee said:
Fresh developments if any?
As Bill from FL said, “I have absolutely no timeline.” So why not patiently wait, as you all have, some 6 months or even a year or two before the subject is touched again? If you really want it that bad, do like even some MVP’s have done...get CARTA from the A-company. Logos has no time line for the forseeable future, so there’s no point asking how things are going every month. It was only last month that the subject was touched several times. Anyway, sorry if it comes across the wrong way, but we need to start getting realistic about CARTA not making it to Logos anytime soon. 👍😁👌
DAL
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No timeline yet, so still stagnant. Now let me go and read a section of the Sacred Bridge in Accordance which is where I keep it lookin nice and sleek 😁
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DAL said:
No timeline yet, so still stagnant.
Stagnant? Let’s not assume that no progress has been made, simply because they are keeping quiet about it.
For all we know, they could have made a lot of progress with licensing.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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PetahChristian said:DAL said:
No timeline yet, so still stagnant.
Stagnant? Let’s not assume that no progress has been made, simply because they are keeping quiet about it.
For all we know, they could have made a lot of progress with licensing.
Ok, Petah. I’ll go ahead and report for FL, so they won’t be stagnant.
Press ... oops ... Forum Release:
”Just to keep everyone updated on Carta, Bellingham is a bit toasty this summer. “
That seems to do it. Just joking.
I’d bet the survey went south. But who knows, except for the weather.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Denise said:
Press ... oops ... Forum Release:
”Just to keep everyone updated on Carta, Bellingham is a bit toasty this summer. “
That seems to do it. Just joking.
Hmm, sounds like “summer” is code for L8, and “toasty” is code for hot news.
Could Bellingham be bundling Carta with L8?
Seriously, if they could pull that off, I think everyone would be motivated to upgrade.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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PetahChristian said:
Could Bellingham be bundling Carta with L8?
Seriously, if they could pull that off, I think everyone would be motivated to upgrade.
That might do it! [:D]
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Okay, Logos, may we have an update on where Logos stands with Carta? We have been patiently waiting (I for one) for years, but I really need to get these resources in a digital format. Once again, I have just learned that A is having a sale on Carta products, due to the high Holy Days here in Israel. So, would you please let us know what the latest is?
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DAL said:
There's nothing to report at this time. If that changes, we'll let everyone know. Thanks.
Notice the “If that changes, we’ll let everyone know...” So apparently nothing has changed 👍😁👌
DAL
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Charlene said:
may we have an update on where Logos stands with Carta?
Thanks for asking, Charlene
DAL said:Notice the “If that changes, we’ll let everyone know...” So apparently nothing has changed
Let's not assume that nothing has changed, please, DAL.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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PetahChristian said:
Well, have they reported anything new? No, right? Hence, nothing has changed in my book until they actually report something. My assumption stands true on pure logic alone, add to that the evidence that nothing new has been reported 👍😁👌
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Meanwhile, on my “A” company mobile app, I’m trying to decide which Carta title to start reading 😜
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Call me a hopeless optimist but I still have positive expectations.
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Bruce Dunning said:
Call me a hopeless optimist but I still have positive expectations.
Nobody is saying to lose hope, but until FL updates everyone, the answer remains the same — No Carta products at this time.
DAL
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The fact that there are no Carta products at this time is obvious from the catalog.
Folks like me are asking FL about progress and expecting FL to reply. It could be a matter of concern, curiosity or planning. Even if FL does not reply, your insights and prolonging the thread are not helpful.
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Lee said:
The fact that there are no Carta products at this time is obvious from the catalog.
Folks like me are asking FL about progress and expecting FL to reply. It could be a matter of concern, curiosity or planning. Even if FL does not reply, your insights and prolonging the thread are not helpful.
Actually, you and those who are impatience are the ones prolonging this thread. What part of FL’s response don’t you get? They clearly said: “There’s nothing to report at this time. IF THAT CHANGES WE’LL LET EVERYONE KNOW. THANKS.”
Capital Letters are for emphasis, so don’t assume someone is yelling.
So if you can’t wait and allow FL to communicate the changes when and if they become available, then someone‘s got a problem...and guess what? Is not me.
So allow FL to communicate changes when they have them and stop acting like a kid when he’s constantly asking, “Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
You get the point and you too can agree that it is annoying. So don’t be that kid 😜 If you’re so desperate for Carta products do like many of us have done: Get it from Accordance. Trust us, you won’t regret it as the quality is far superior.
I bet if Carta makes it to Logos someday, many of you we’ll be back here complaining about the quality of the pictures. So in the end, none of you will be happy anyway.
Blessings! And I hope you get your wish 👍😁👌
DAL
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The questions have come from interested users who for different reasons are asking FL about it. They are just entitled to that.
You are one individual (not FL employee) who is spamming this thread, putting down people and plugging the competition.
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Lee said:
The questions have come from interested users who for different reasons are asking FL about it. They are just entitled to that.
You are one individual (not FL employee) who is spamming this thread, putting down people and plugging the competition.
The problem is that you haven’t come to grips with the fact that the question has already been answered. Go back and read. Don’t do this to yourself! 👍😁👌 When and if they ever have something to communicate, they’ll be the first ones to let you know without you even asking. Accept this and you’ll be able to be at peace with yourself.
Peace ✌️
DAL
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In Christ,
Ken
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From the Forum Guidelines:
"Please treat each other with the love, courtesy, respect, and kindness that you would if you were sitting in your living room together."
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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I have no pony n this race really. FL historically has done less than a stellar job with graphic resources and I have no desire to duplicate this resource in Logos. But while I understand DAL‘s position that we should be patient I am one who believes the squeaky wheel gets the grease. It truly does no good other than to keep pressure on FL to continue talks until one side or the other comes up with a definitive answer although as in the case of Moody a disappointing answer may one day change. This has dragged on so long as to make me feel it’s not likely to ever happen but I will be very glad to be proved wrong.
-Dan
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Still waiting...
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DAL, would you mind not trolling, please? It's not exactly courteous, kind, or respectful. Thank you!
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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PetahChristian said:
DAL, would you mind not trolling, please? It's not exactly courteous, kind, or respectful. Thank you!
It's just hilarious to see how much you guys love to torture yourselves waiting for an answer that has already been given; or else, why do you think nobody from FL has even bothered to respond?
I strongly believe they already told you what their plans were. They announced a meeting with Carta, the meeting pretty much went south, so they had nothing to report. Hence, the "if anything changes, we'll let everyone know."
If I've become your enemy by telling you the truth (a truth you're not willing to accept), then I don't see how that is not courteous, kind, or respectful.
Remember, you guys are the ones putting up a show in here. I'm just reminding you what the "Officials" stated not that long ago. You would think one of you guys would be smart enough to at least email the FL employee that told you there was nothing new to report and find out from him directly and then ask him if he could post again (even if it's the same answer -- which I'm 1000% sure it is you just won't believe me) and ease everybody's mind on the issue. Instead, most of you have chosen to be the squeaky wheel that already got the grease a few months ago, but choose to squeak over and over as if that's going to make Carta come to an agreement with Logos. Have you ever wondered that maybe Carta doesn't want Logos to carry their products? Because as it is right now, Accordance is the exclusive carrier of Carta digital products as far as Bible Software goes. So if the meeting went south, for whatever reasons, it doesn't matter how many times you enquire, you will either not get a response (because you already got it) or you will be given the same response in a more specific way: "No Carta products for the foreseeable long future - so please, don't ask again).
Anyway, keep it real, nothing to report at this time -- believe me, I'm telling you for a good reason. Maybe I know something you don't know -- ever wondered that?
Thanks!
DAL
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Not hunting it down but I believe it was confirmed that Carta is not under exclusive contract to Acc, that said Carta may not want any other distributor. I know Concordia years back made all sort of demands when trying to negotiate with Accordance. Including saying they were happy with Logos. Now I do not know anything more there other than what was shared on the forums there by both sides (including the final polite unable to come to a deal and then never seen the Concordia exec again), but was given the impression that being happy with Logos meant they wanted much to come to a second platform. Carta may feel similar. As for things being done and settled I know that I have heard about Accordance being in talks for very long periods to get a deal done so things may not be dead. Theses deals which we would assume should be a meeting yea or nay, are not that simple. For whatever reason these negotiations seem to often move at a glacial pace. And Dal you may not be meaning to offend or not but the Pepe face has come to represent much of the worst of a certain groups on the net. I will not assume that you necessarily hold onto any of those views which do seem to include some very unchristian ideas, but I know I was taken a back a bit to see him knowing some of the negative things it had been associated with.
Sometimes you just have to let people tilt at windmills and just remember they may well march to drum beat you or I do not hear.
-Dan
PS: please do not let my Don Quixote reference infer anything negative about your quest to get Carta published in Logos just the way some may perceive it.
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