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Just thought I would tell a little story (fairly light-hearted)...
I was once working at a service station (gas station) and a Jehovah's Witness came in doing his night-time ministry. He introduced himself. I said "Great, because I'm a Jehovah's Witness too. Yes, I witness about Jehovah all the time! But I'm also a Muslim!" He said, "how can that be?" I said, "I believe in the one true God - that makes me a Muslim doesn't it? But wait, I'm also a Mormon." Looking even more bewildered, he asked, "How?" "Well" I said, "I belong to the Church of Jesus Christ, and I am a saint living in the last days...doesn't this make me a Mormon?" "Im also a Catholic" I continued, "Yes, I also go to the one true church!"
"Oh" said the JW, "so you are a Christian!" I said, "well, I could be a Baptist because I've had the full immersion done...I could be an SDA as I belive in the Sabbath...I could be a Pentecostal because I've had one of those experiences too!" "Wait, wait!" said the JW, "what church do you go to?"
'I could go to the CRC, COC, CCC, AOG...but I belong to the church of the Living G-O-D!!!"
Finally he understood what I meant...so we decided to pray together that we would both understand God's Word better...I closed my eyes right then and there...begun to praise in tongues...when I opened my eyes, all I saw was the automatic doors closing.
My story always makes me think of the parable of the Good Samaritan. I am positive that our Lord's theology was better than mine, yet he could put it aside to help somebody that the rest of the religious leadership might not want, or be able, to. Indeed, even his own race!
Prayer..."Lord, please pour you oil upon us that our scars my soften and fade, and help us to drink of your new wine so that we are sensitive to your Holy Spirit. Let your love reign in our lives."
Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this forum...I find myself looking forward to checking it every day. For a non-church attender, this can count as true fellowship, believe me!
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Is Mebin said:
Just thought I would tell a little story (fairly light-hearted)...
I was once working at a service station (gas station) and a Jehovah's Witness came in doing his night-time ministry. He introduced himself. I said "Great, because I'm a Jehovah's Witness too. Yes, I witness about Jehovah all the time! But I'm also a Muslim!" He said, "how can that be?" I said, "I believe in the one true God - that makes me a Muslim doesn't it? But wait, I'm also a Mormon." Looking even more bewildered, he asked, "How?" "Well" I said, "I belong to the Church of Jesus Christ, and I am a saint living in the last days...doesn't this make me a Mormon?" "Im also a Catholic" I continued, "Yes, I also go to the one true church!"
typical NEW AGE MOVEMENT, STOP YOUR OPION,THIS NOT TURTH. hope confession in Gospel of Jesus.
2 Peter 3:18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
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Chris Thompson said:Ben said:
typical NEW AGE MOVEMENT, STOP YOUR OPION,THIS NOT TURTH. hope confession in Gospel of Jesus.
How's that no debate policy workin' out for ya?
As well as a spelling policy. [:P]
Fred Greco
Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
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edit: I take my pearls back. [:#]
Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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Ben said:
typical NEW AGE MOVEMENT, STOP YOUR OPION,THIS NOT TURTH. hope confession in Gospel of Jesus.
Thank you for your OPION (opinion) of what is TURTH (truth)...I really do value it...and yes, I am a New-Ager...a believer in Jesus Christ (in whom I put ALL my hope) living in a new age!!! God bless you.
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Chris Thompson said:Ben said:
typical NEW AGE MOVEMENT, STOP YOUR OPION,THIS NOT TURTH. hope confession in Gospel of Jesus.
How's that no debate policy workin' out for ya?
Indeed I agree with Bob, but if someone proclaim non-Bible word or mislead God's Word, we don't slience.
2 Peter 3:18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
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Thanks, Bob. I've taught classes recently where the 20-or so people present attend a different church. 20-plus in the same room from different theological backgrounds and all still respect each other at the end of each trimester. And they keep coming back. 20-some different churches! I understand your premise and know it can be done. Staying focused on Bible study with Logos Bible software is exciting enough.
God bless
{Charley}running Logos Bible Software 6.0a: Collector's Edition on HP e9220y (AMD Phenom II X4 2.60GHz 8.00GB 64-bit Win 7 Pro SP1) & iPad (mini) apps.
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Oh!...Thank Goodness!!! a Hall Monitor to the rescue! [:P]Matthew C Jones said:"This is not about Logos Bible Software; let's discontinue this thread."
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Matthew C Jones said:
"This is not about Logos Bible Software; let's discontinue this thread."
G'day Matt...I was just trying to put a little humour into it, but I was taken the wrong way (typical Aussie trait)...however, the subject of this thread began off topic (Logos Bible software). I'd like to concur with what one Italian volcano said to another Italian volcano...to all L4 users..."I LAVA You!"
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Matthew C Jones said:
"This is not about Logos Bible Software; let's discontinue this thread."
Esther 4:13-14
13 Then Mordecai told them to reply to Esther, “Do not think to yourself that in the king’s palace you will escape any more than all the other Jews. 14 For if you keep silent at this time, relief and deliverance will rise for the Jews from another place, but you and your father’s house will perish. And who knows whether you have not come to the kingdom for such a time as this?
2 Peter 3:18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
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Chris Thompson said:
Oh!...Thank Goodness!!! a Hall Monitor to the rescue!Matthew C Jones said:"This is not about Logos Bible Software; let's discontinue this thread."
[^o)] HHHMMMmmm~~~ [^o)]
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Matthew C Jones said:
In another thread a wise man recently said this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264860.aspx#264860
and this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264902.aspx#264902
and this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264927.aspx#264927
Let Bob run Logos.
Thanks! I had no idea which thread was being referenced. [:P] You bring honor to your star....and do your part to stir up ... ER ... quell Debate.
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Michael Anda said:
I would have liked to have seen Bob use the word 'statistically' instead of 'traditionally.'
Sometimes I just think funny things.
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JRS said:
/threads could be redirected there by the MVPs.
I have volunteered for many things in my lifetime (US Navy, submarine duty, etc), but I am not a volunteer to supervise these forums. [N]
This is not the purpose of the MVP program, and this one does not want that job. I don't mean to sound harsh, but I want to emphasize that any hint of thread control by MVPs is not an acceptable solution to the problem of abusive posters.
Bob Pritchett is CEO of Logos and one of the founding partners. He owns the ball, the bat, and the playing field. He makes the rules—or lack thereof, not the MVPs.
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Jack Caviness said:
I have volunteered for many things in my lifetime (US Navy, submarine duty, etc), but I am not a volunteer to supervise these forums.
Moderating is NOT fun, that much I know. But moderators don't have to make the rules, they are there to enforce them. The rules we have right now, are short, sweet, to the point and above all—WISE! Let's not screw up a good thing here. Anyone with ANY sense KNOWS this is NOT a good forum for theological discussion. DON'T THEY? I'm more than a little unclear about whether we have new, unposted rules, or not. Can I now tell everyone exactly how I feel about a certain 'Reformed' grunge pastor from Seattle, or more precisely, his method? *I* don't even want to hear what I have to say on the subject. If I feel the need to voice my opinion, I'll do so elsewhere. Logos Forums are the perfect place to talk about Logos software and that's about it really. Shoot, I've even been shot down here for asking if a given resource is faith-filled. I wasn't even asking if it was faith-void. But the answers to my simple, sincere, uncharged question has implications all by its lonesome.
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Grace & Peace,
Bill
MSI GF63 8RD, I-7 8850H, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD, NVIDIA GTX 1050Max
iPhone 12 Pro Max 512Gb
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Too Late. You done been Quoted.Matthew C Jones said:edit: I take my pearls back.
Matthew C Jones said:In another thread a wise man recently said this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264860.aspx#264860
and this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264902.aspx#264902
and this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264927.aspx#264927
Let Bob run Logos.
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Jack Caviness said:JRS said:
/threads could be redirected there by the MVPs.
I have volunteered for many things in my lifetime (US Navy, submarine duty, etc), but I am not a volunteer to supervise these forums.
This is not the purpose of the MVP program, and this one does not want that job. I don't mean to sound harsh, but I want to emphasize that any hint of thread control by MVPs is not an acceptable solution to the problem of abusive posters.
Bob Pritchett is CEO of Logos and one of the founding partners. He owns the ball, the bat, and the playing field. He makes the rules—or lack thereof, not the MVPs.
And I didn't volunteer to be a hall monitor in a Pre-School. I love my Logos software and like to talk with others about it. I don't care for sports, multi-level marketing, or conspiracy theories. I just want to learn how to better use Logos for Bible study. Now if Bob would give me all Logos resources for free, I'd gladly spend 40 hours a week baby-sitting.
[:D] Hey, Bob.... That is a serious offer. No, really. Have your people call my people. [;)] Who loves ya baby?Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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Why buy the cow...when you get the milk for free? [:P]
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Matthew C Jones said:
I like theology.
I like different tribes.
I like dogs.
It is those automatic cat statements I can't stand. Woof!My cat wouldn't tolerate the dogs - till his best friend (cat) died and he was lonely. Then he realised he needed to make friends with the dogs, who'd been longing to have him as a friend.. I'm not sure whether or not this is relevant to this forum?
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I think it's relevant. If I were the last "Real Christian" standing ... If there were only Calvinists left on the earth, I suppose I would have to socialize with them. [:P]nicky crane said:Matthew C Jones said:I like theology.
I like different tribes.
I like dogs.
It is those automatic cat statements I can't stand. Woof!My cat wouldn't tolerate the dogs - till his best friend (cat) died and he was lonely. Then he realised he needed to make friends with the dogs, who'd been longing to have him as a friend.. I'm not sure whether or not this is relevant to this forum?
Kilroy Was Here.
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Jack Caviness said:JRS said:
/threads could be redirected there by the MVPs.
I have volunteered for many things in my lifetime (US Navy, submarine duty, etc), but I am not a volunteer to supervise these forums.
This is not the purpose of the MVP program, and this one does not want that job. I don't mean to sound harsh, but I want to emphasize that any hint of thread control by MVPs is not an acceptable solution to the problem of abusive posters.
Bob Pritchett is CEO of Logos and one of the founding partners. He owns the ball, the bat, and the playing field. He makes the rules—or lack thereof, not the MVPs.
Actually, you confirm one of my implied points very well, Jack.
Whether the LoPD (Logos Police Department) consisted of volunteer MVPs or paid Logos workers, it would be a thankless job and one that would be subject to all sorts of criticisms once they start to enforce the rules by killing threads and censuring people. It's part of the reason that I think Bob's laissez-faire-but-please-act-like-mature-Christians approach is the best.
My only modification is to recognize that human nature, being what it is, is still going to produce squabbles and bickerings and divisions among a small percentage of forum users. But rather than kill a post or a thread, I suggest moving it to another corner of the forum world where they can debate, fight, hiss all they want. And if the current slate of MVPs do not want the role, I am sure it wouldn't be difficult to find a small group of users who would be willing perform the function so that the they (the MVPs) can continue to do the fine job they do supporting the software in the forums.
Please forgive me if I sounded like I was trying to volunteer you or anyone else.
(E-5 radar/ecm, 70-74, Destroyer Escort, west coast)
Instead of Artificial Intelligence, I prefer to continue to rely on Divine Intelligence instructing my Natural Dullness (Ps 32:8, John 16:13a)
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JRS said:
My only modification is to recognize that human nature, being what it is, is still going to produce squabbles and bickerings and divisions among a small percentage of forum users. But rather than kill a post or a thread, I suggest moving it to another corner of the forum world where they can debate, fight, hiss all they want.
How would you prevent the inflamed passions, tempers, hurt feelings from spilling back into the main forums?
JRS said:Please forgive me if I sounded like I was trying to volunteer you or anyone else.
No problem. Just wanted to make sure everyone knows that I am not a volunteer—even if I believe some moderation is needed.
JRS said:(E-5 radar/ecm, 70-74, Destroyer Escort, west coast)
E-9 Fire Control* DD (destroyer) & SSBM (Ballistic missile submarine), 55-75, East Coast
*That is gun and missile fire control, not forum flame wars [:D]
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Jack Caviness said:
E-9 Fire Control* DD (destroyer) & SSBM (Ballistic missile submarine), 55-75, East Coast
hmm... and I was just a tank driver (T 55) [:)]
Bohuslav
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It worked!!!!
::happy dance::
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Bob Pritchett said:
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Please stop being the second party that turns an unkind post into a flame war.
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Wouldn't it be great if all the people who waste their time and energy on petty things put that time and energy into Bible study?
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[Y] Personal Bible Study...in a collegiate atmosphere
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Since the linked posts have been deleted, It would seem that you have changed your policy ... AGAIN?Bob Pritchett said:I do not want to moderate the forums. I do not want to pay someone to moderate the forums. I am opposed to deleting or locking threads because it's pointless: the person who must make their voice heard will find other ways to do so. And the person who would respect the shut down doesn't need to be "deleted," only told. And I want to spend our resources on building tools, not hiring hall monitors for the forums.
Matthew C Jones said:In another thread a wise man recently said this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264860.aspx#264860
and this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264902.aspx#264902
and this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/34988/264927.aspx#264927
Let Bob run Logos.
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Chris Thompson said:
Since the linked posts have been deleted, It would seem that you have changed your policy ... AGAIN?
Chris, perhaps Bob is interested in continuing the discussion. If not Bob is available via email at Bob@logos.com (try getting Bill Gates to respond to email). Maybe that is the way to get an answer directly from him.
I will say that I can't help but feel your response is an attempt at creating yet another discussion that has nothing to do with Logos Bible software or using Logos for Bible study. You may not mean it that way but that's how I perceive it. Please don't expect me to argue this point. I'm not interested in arguing, just in trying to help you gain another user's perspective.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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There is no "policy," there's just how we do things. Not deleting is the general rule, but even that hasn't been absolute. We do delete robot spam, for example.
We're generally trying the "no delete" style, but I thought the Kilroy creation and posts were just an intentional provocation, and weren't from a real user. (No address, no phone, no purchase history.) I don't see deleting a "not real user" as contrary to my free speech policy.
I did delete the one thread that was inflaming all this this week simply because I was tired of its continued existence. That was an arbitrary personal indulgence, not a policy. :-)
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