Welcome to the Noet forum

1) From Bob's blog: "Noet (rhymes with “poet”) is the Logos platform repurposed for scholarly ebooks outside biblical studies: Greek and Latin classics, philosophy, literature, Shakespeare, Judaica, etc."

Can you comment on the Judaica part? Judaica clearly isn't "outside biblical studies". Are you planning to use Noet as a more 'neutral' platform for Jewish users? Are you planning to finally fill the huge holes in the Jewish offerings? Will there be a Jewish Product Manager?

2) Bob's blog again: "But more excitingly, we’ll customize Logos 5′s tools to support the special needs of disciplines beyond biblical and theological studies: we’ll support (...) word-for-word comparisons of different editions of Shakespeare"

Sounds like you intend to expand Text Comparison. How far do you plan to take it? My dreams for TC can be found e g at http://community.logos.com/forums/p/43428/324614.aspx#324614.[;)]

3) You need to look over the product pages for the 'old' philosophy collections and add 'Also included in' sections. E g, if I were about to pay $72.95 for the Classics in Empiricist Philosophy Collection (9 vols.), I'd want to know that for only $17 more I could get the whole Modern Philosophy Bundle (21 vols.).

4) Have you seen Is It OK if I dislike Noet?

5) When will you start pushing CP's on noet.com? We need help with Lewis & Short, Sophocles, the Patrologia's and a number of other things of interest to Classicists.[;)]

Thanks, Bob.

I believe the result will be an ability to publish more material that Logos users want at lower cost to all users.

That's what I'm hoping too!

Btw, it's been an awfully long time since the last batch of JPS titles.[;)]

Far enough to compare Shakespeare, and other materials, and probably some (can't promise all) of what you want.

I'll hold you to that.[:)]

I think this is the fourth time I've asked that question since the new group of Product Managers started. Let's see if I get an answer this time.

I didn't.[:)] But I'm hoping.

As a large number of people I am sure took advantage of the 'free' persueus collections and have the aristotle and plato etc books, are those who have access to those works eligible for the timeline etc that also comes with those collections?

The Plato and Aristotle in Noet are different editions than the ones in Perseus.

Hi Mike,

After looking over the Noet forum and website I still have a question.  For those resources that are "like" on both Noet and Logos, will all the capabilities that Logos has work with the same?  i.e. searching, tagging, linking, etc.

The example is the Harvard Classics that are being discussed in this thread.  Specifically, the disparity in price that Mark Smith points out in the apparent less expensive Noet version.

I'm a little lost.  [:S]

I own quite a number of the resources in this "offering"    ....         It seems your website will let me "buy again" what I already own ...

            I actually signed up for this again ....    and when I noticed that I was buying again what I already own, I deleted my order ...  however, I Do want Kant ...

Peace, Milford! Never fear. I was concerned that I was in the same situation as you and was about to chime in my similar question to Mike. I even was going to ask "Couldn't the Kant works be split out into an 'upgrade' collection for those of us who already own the rest, as is often done with pre-pubs?"

But then I realized that the Kant works are available in their own separate pre-pub:

http://www.logos.com/product/29824/immanuel-kant-collection

And I'm already in on that one. So I do not need to order the Noet Modern Philosophy collection. In fact, it already shows the "Pre-order" button as grey, so I wasn't tempted to order it.

Perhaps you didn't bid on the Kant bundle when it was in CP (which I think it was; I don't seem to have the email about that anymore though). But it's not too late to get it at the pre-pub price.

Please help me understand this and/or correct your website ....

I own quite a number of the resources in this "offering"    ....         It seems your website will let me "buy again" what I already own ...

The button only gets grey if you own everything in the bundle. Logos.com works exactly the same.

              What disturbed me is that the Logos website had accepted my order .....               I'm not sure how they can handle this kind of situation; but, it was very upsetting ....        I perceived that I'd have to order the whole thing again to get the so-called "missing" books ...

                        absolutely cool now on this -- The Lord's Day -- for most of us!              *smile*                                       Peace!

I'm a bit confused when I look up Noet and click the link. Unless I'm missing something I have most if not all the resources on the Biblical Greek and yet the price tag seems a bit much.

They probably have not implemented dynamic pricing for these collections, as they are still in pre-pub. You could either (1) wait until it goes live and then purchase it through a sales rep who can give you credit for the titles you already own, or (2) petition Logos to split out part of the collection in to an "upgrade" version of it for people who already own certain books. This might be harder to accomplish since all of those books have been available as one-offs in the past, so the range of possibilities of what books in that collection people have already is very wide. They're not going to make dozens of custom upgrade paths in pre-pub.

On the other hand, because all these titles are available as standalones, you could pick up any that you're missing via the Logos.com website.

I'm guessing that Noet listings aren't fully linked into Logos.

If you mean that the listings on Noet wouldn't be fully linked into your Logos library if you bought them, yes, they would be, just like the Vyrso ones are. In fact currently the Noet site simply directs you to the Logos site to order the resources. I'm not sure but I'm guessing they will eventually make Noet more of a full-featured site like Vyrso.com where you can purchase books, logging in with your same Logos.com account credentials, and that the Noet site will take into account books you already own through Logos in showing you whether the "Pre-order" button is grey or not. But they might not follow this route, since all the Noet books are clearly still Logos editions (with complete tagging) of interest to Logos's core customers, and thus they aren't going to be pulled off the Logos site and put on Noet only. Not sure if they'll end up duplicating the listings. That would be foolhardy IMHO because it would open them up to discrepancies and site maintenance headaches.

Bump.

It's actually the same edition.

Oops.[:$] You are right. I was confused by a number of things:

• Different, non-Loeb looking, cover image
• No series name
• I had hidden the Latin volume, so I thought I didn't have one[:$]

But it seems I wasn't the only one who was confused, given that it was put it on CP.[:D]