The following list provides a snapshot of what is included in Logos Now. You will find it organized according to the most recent release (Logos 7.0), which includes all the new features. These have been broken down by datasets, features, interactives, unique Logos resources, and media. Subscription only features are at the top of each category. The second half of this list includes datasets, features, interactives, resources, and media that were released during the regular Logos Now releases.
You forgot the new Text Comparison. This feature provides endless scrolling.
Jacob, would you mind highlighting the datasets, features etc that are new to Logos Now subscribers, maybe with an asterisk or something (and indicating such at the end of your post)? Thanks!
I believe the answer is the first 5 datasets, the first 3 features ... #3 has been renamed, the first 2 interactives, resource isn't new but merely misspelled, and I don't know on media.
The Bible Browser is also not listed.
If you've been a Logos Now member and are looking for just what's new in this release, here's that list:
New
In addition, here are a few additional content items I forgot to include:
Interlinears
Media Collections
also my Clementine Vulgate is an Interlinear since today
Thanks. Added the interlinears to my post.
Does subscription only mean 'Logos Now' and Logos Cloud only? I am guessing these items dont require their own subscriptions/
Yes. Sorry for not being clearer.
I would assume Logos Now subscription is in view here. But, with the change from "subscription" to "membership" it may bring confusion. If Logos Now is in view, Phil, it may be helpful to change it to "Membership Only" rather than "Subscription Only."
No support for Personal Books on Mobile Devices?
Mobile platform upgrades are independent of desktop upgrades - but I'm not aware of any current plans to provide this
No support for Personal Books on Mobile Devices? Mobile platform upgrades are independent of desktop upgrades - but I'm not aware of any current plans to provide this
Seriously? They prioritized an interactive on the Empty Tomb above providing mobile access to Personal Books. The latter would increase the benefit of Logos/Verbum multifold! IMHO.
Agape,
Steve
They're completely different teams with non-transferrable skill sets. [:)]
Seriously? They prioritized an interactive on the Empty Tomb above providing mobile access to Personal Books. The latter would increase the benefit of Logos/Verbum multifold! IMHO. They're completely different teams with non-transferrable skill sets.
They're completely different teams with non-transferrable skill sets.
You redeploy the Engineering headcount to meet the customer requirements. You don't simply ignore the customer needs. IMHO.
Seriously? They prioritized an interactive on the Empty Tomb above providing mobile access to Personal Books. The latter would increase the benefit of Logos/Verbum multifold! IMHO. They're completely different teams with non-transferrable skill sets. You redeploy the Engineering headcount to meet the customer requirements. You don't simply ignore the customer needs. IMHO. Agape, Steve
Skillsets are non-redeployable. This would require dismissal of one skillset and hiring of another. Put yourself in the place of one so dismissed.
Seriously? They prioritized an interactive on the Empty Tomb above providing mobile access to Personal Books. The latter would increase the benefit of Logos/Verbum multifold! IMHO. They're completely different teams with non-transferrable skill sets. You redeploy the Engineering headcount to meet the customer requirements. You don't simply ignore the customer needs. IMHO. Agape, Steve Skillsets are non-redeployable. This would require dismissal of one skillset and hiring of another. Put yourself in the place of one so dismissed.
I understand very well that it may mean the transition of an employee. However, a successful technology company cannot let its future roadmap be governed only by its currently-available engineering resources.
The problem is that the interactives required almost no Engineering support. And as the two new interactives are of a different flavor than we have seen previously, I assumed they are testing the waters for more "teaching videos" that could be used in a church setting by a teacher untrained in the area.
Yep. Those two interactives were made by artists and editorial staff using fancy web editing tools with just enough developer time to wrap it up in a package and ship it. And MJ guesses correctly that this is a pilot program for a new interactive production workflow we may (or may not) scale up in the future.
OK, how long before you update links to show what is new to us in each set? I have Verbum Foundations 6. There's a dynamic price for everything, including Starter ($90). I'd like to know what I'm getting for the price and what I need to buy to "catch up" to where I am now with Verbum 7
Did you check the Catholic bundles on the main Logos website as opposed to the Verbum site? Click here - https://www.logos.com/compare/verbum.
This should help you with your questions.
Seems to be working for me.
https://www.logos.com/product/81202/verbum-starter
Scroll down to "Library Resources You'll Get" and select "New to you" from the dropdown.
Works now. Not sure what the problem was before. I decided to go with Verbum Starter and see where to go from there.
If you've been a Logos Now member and are looking for just what's new in this release, here's that list: New Sermon Editor: a new tool for building your sermon manuscript, outline, handout, and slides right in Logos. Courses: a guided learning platform for working through Mobile Ed courses and other structured learning content Bible Browser (subscription only): a faceted browsing tool for accessing our rich data on the Bible by simply using your mouse instead of learning complicated search syntax Figurative Language of New Testament: a fresh analysis of the NT's figurative language Quickstart Layouts: starting points that integrate content and tools around a task or theme Longacre Genre Analysis: an application of Longacre's genre schema to the Bible Sentence Types of New Testament: an analysis of all sentences in the NT into declarative, interrogative, and exclamatory Speech Acts of New Testament: similar to the above, but using speech acts Hebrew Grammatical Constructions: a database that identifies many key constructions in Hebrew Exploring Bible Manuscript: an educational interactive guide through biblical manuscripts An Empty Tomb: a look inside a first-century tomb that sheds light on the setting for Jesus' burial Text Comparison Interlinear New Testament dataset: the data that backs the new Text Comparison interlinear view Improved Text Comparison tool: infinite scroll and a new interlinear view that organizes translations against the underlying Greek or Hebrew text Media tool: a way to find and create sharable media (combines Visual Copy and Media Browser) Biblical Event Navigator: new UI Miracles of the Bible: added bubble visualizations In addition, here are a few additional content items I forgot to include: Interlinears Lexham Dead Sea Scrolls Hebrew-English Interlinear Bible Lexham Latin-English Interlinear Vulgate Bible The Latin-Greek Reverse Interlinear Vulgate Deuterocanonical Old Testament The Latin-Greek Reverse Interlinear Vulgate New Testament The Latin-Greek Reverse Interlinear Vulgate: Deuterocanonical Old Testament, Variant Alignments The Latin-Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Vulgate Old Testament The English-Greek Reverse Interlinear Deuterocanonical Old Testament Revised Standard Version, Catholic Edition Media Collections Faithlife Animations (subscription only) deSilva Teaching Materials, vol. 2 (subscription only) Mars Hill Media Collection (subscription only) Lexham Bible Dictionary Videos (subscription only)
Improved
Thank you Phil. Would it be possible to make a permanent/sticky thread in the Logos 7 Forums with something like this? There is one in the Logos Now Forums which is always at the top and it is easy to go somewhere to find all the new features and how to use them
Please disregard my above post... I found the thread. I tried to modify it but the forums kept giving me an error
I wonder if the answer to the Original Post Title is this one....
At last we can all answer how many angels really DO dance on the head of a pin and what original language variant are they speaking.
Sounds like a future interactive in the making, right?
My fingers are still crossed for an eschatology interactive
I second that. At the very least, it would be nice to get rid of this stylistically outdated powerpoint from my computer!
1882.Five Millennial Views.pptx
I second that. At the very least, it would be nice to get rid of this stylistically outdated powerpoint from my computer! 1882.Five Millennial Views.pptx
The sermon tool is only evaluated if you buy a program apart, this really is very bad, buy a presentation program without needing only to use an integrated text editor, really absurd, the sentence creation tool is now no longer available , Only if I pay well is a delay since version 6 was already included, the Logos Bible is a great tool, but it made me sad, since I have little financial resources, I feel excluded, to use this powerful tool ...
Hi Antonio - and welcome to the forums
I don't follow all your points but let me comment on some of them
The sermon tool is only evaluated if you buy a program apart,
Not quite sure what you mean here - the sermon document / editor feature is included with the Logos 7 Full Feature Set or a Logos Now subscription. So it is an additional cost but is then a fully integrated part of the Logos environment.
the sentence creation tool is now no longer available
What tool are you referring to here?
Only if I pay well is a delay since version 6 was already included
I don't understand this - could you please clarify / expand?
Hello! Thank you for contacting me, I have been a user since the time of libronix 2, I still have with me the physical media and their respective licenses. I know that the sermon feature was only evaluated in logos 7, but I stayed out of this resource, because I updated to version 7 and the logos informed me that I was preseeding the Proclaim program to use the sermon editor, I have to pay for a monthly fee To use the editor, since it is on the subscription basis. For me it became unfeasible, I will get an extra program based on monthly fees, to use a refusal that is already in the core of the program? Just not active Because if it was not part of the core, there would be a guide with the name Sermon!
The resource I said is not evaluated in the document guide where the syntactic analysis, (sentence diagram) with arrows and visual effects, which in logos 6 I used normally, and now it is saying that I have to acquire the part.
When your last question that you did not understand, I am embarrassed to say here publicly, I have no financial resources to buy, I know that this program is worth every penny, every drop of sweat of its programmers, but I wanted at least what I already Used in Logos 6.
I know that the sermon feature was only evaluated in logos 7
Yes the Sermon Editor was only introduced in Logos 7
to use the sermon editor, I have to pay for a monthly fee To use the editor, since it is on the subscription basis. For me it became unfeasible, I will get an extra program based on monthly fees, to use a refusal that is already in the core of the program?
Yes - as per my post above you either need to buy the Full Feature Set or subscribe to Logos Now to get access to the Sermon Editor
Because if it was not part of the core, there would be a guide with the name Sermon
It isn't actually implemented as a Guide but as a new Document type
I think you are referring to the Sentence Diagram Document - is that correct?
If you had access to this in Logos 6 you should continue to have access to it if you move to Logos 7
Understood - and pleased don't be embarrassed by that
You should be able to upgrade to the free version of Logos 7 - available at https://www.logos.com/product/136022/basic
And anything that used to work for you in Logos 6 should continue to work for you there.
It won't include the Sermon Editor or a lot of the features in chargeable versions of Logos 7 but will provide the latest engine, some new features and the latest set of fixes.
If you have problems with that please create a new thread in the forum and we'll work with you to get it sorted.
Thank you, your help was precious, I will uninstall and install again by following your link
How do I change my bibles on text comparison?
Look HERE.
Hi Matthew
Welcome to the New Year and welcome to the forum - you will find plenty of advice here so don't hesitate to ask.
It is better though ask a new question as a New Post...
making sure that you give the new post a meaningful title. That way help will be focused on your question and others can search for it if they have a similar problem.
Having said that I only partially understand how to actually change the bibles in Text Comparison and don't find the help file particularly useful.
You could try this as an example...
Type the three resources (or similar) into the top bar. Note NO spaces.
Click on the line '9 resources with...
This populates the top box with all the possible selections, some you may need to hover over with the cursor to see what they are.
Untick the ones that you don't want to show in the comparison window.
Then click 'Save'.
At this point you may need to close and open the window again.
Now scroll down the panel to...
... where is says either 'Saved' or 'Recent' and double click on one of the lines.
Then simply click somewhere outside the box.
This provides me with the list that I actually want about 30% of the time. I guess the failures are due to me missing a step in the rather convoluted and arcane system but I usually get there with only a modicum of wasted time.
Do let us know how you get on...
The "Bible List" section at https://wiki.logos.com/Text_Comparison is also helpful
Graham
I might be able to help with some of your confusion, Mike.
Type the three resources (or similar) into the top bar. Note NO spaces. ...
...
There are very good odds that this does not do what you want it to do. When you type something, the list of displayed items gets filtered using a simple text match against the title and abbreviated title shown in the list. Just type "NIV" and then check the one you want to use. Then replace "NIV" with "ESV" and check the one you want to use. Then replace "ESV" with "NLT" and check the one you want to use.
The "# resourcess with..." item is used if you just want to select all items that are a result of a library search (such as you might use in the Library panel). This is usually overkill, particularly if you don't plan on using the results "as-is".
At this point you can click outside the popup to allow the the Text Comparison to update, and you are done. You don't need to do anything else.
You don't need to use "Save" unless you think you might want to select the list again, and don't want to have to reenter it.
No need to double click to load a saved or recent item. Just single click will do. In fact, double clicking will sometimes mess things up if the number of selected items changes, as your second click may register on a different item than your first click, causing that to load instead of the one you wanted.
I hope this helps make the selector easier for you to use.
Thanks for the tutorial Andrew - it is indeed helpful.
The authors of the help file might like to consider the confusion that I got into by reviewing the line...
3. Click into the Resources box and choose the Bibles you want to compare. You can type a list of Bible abbreviations with commas between each (i.e., NASB95, NIV, ESV, KJV).
Logos Help. (2016). Bellingham, WA: Faithlife.
Your explanation is clear. I consider, in the light of your explanation, the second sentence to be misleading at best.
A link in the help file to the training video would be very useful here.
Thanks for the tutorial Andrew - it is indeed helpful. The authors of the help file might like to consider the confusion that I got into by reviewing the line... 3. Click into the Resources box and choose the Bibles you want to compare. You can type a list of Bible abbreviations with commas between each (i.e., NASB95, NIV, ESV, KJV). Logos Help. (2016). Bellingham, WA: Faithlife. Your explanation is clear. I consider, in the light of your explanation, the second sentence to be misleading at best. A link in the help file to the training video would be very useful here.
Ah... looks like we neglected to get the help file updated when we replaced the resource selector. Thanks for letting us know. We'll get it fixed up.
I would like to find if there are any other places where a hebrew noun is used more than once in any two chapter range and compare how those words are translated in each location. If there are examples where it's plainly inaccurate to translate them the same, that are in close proximity, and require different translations
