a question from an Accordance User
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Kristin, have you tried playing with the floating windows in the free version of Logos? It really is just like having an additional monitor, just stacked on or beneath your current one. The only difference in the main window and the others is that only one has the tookbar that opens guides, documents, etc. Nesting them would not make them connected to each other, assuming that link sets iterate so new ones take unused letters and don't become connected to the letters in your existing layout.
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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Denise, I assume link sets would behave like I suggested above to Kristin. But I didn't think about things like "send links here." I feel like I would expect the original layout to take precedence over the ones you are adding. But I also wouldn't want them to be completely isolated. I would expect to have link sets and send links work across the modules if I wanted them to.
I don't know why floating windows can't have the main toolbar toggled on or off but since I never have more than 4 windows open (2 monitors, 2 windows deep) it has never come up as a concern for me.
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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Like 'u'? My big layout uses up the links.
As complicated as layouts are now, I have my doubts (smiling).
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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I accidentally hit post too soon and then edited it. But you caught me before I finished!
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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What you describe (having to re-work links) is pretty much the problem with the right-click favorites work around (or for that matter, right-click library selections). Setting the links each time. But I might be over-thinking-ish.
Not being negative, but the possible complexity, and once-every-few-years discussion doesn't sound too favorable to the feature.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Hi @Mark Allison, regarding your comment, “I don't think I understand. You can have floating windows addressing different topics. And I'm not sure what you mean by "one floating in another." Could you elaborate on that?” It is in part what @DMB clarified saying “The 'main' window does stuff that other windows can't. Which means you're always going back to the main window for this and that.” Additionally though, I often have multiple very unrelated Accordance Workspaces open at the same time. Not only does Logos require all the floating windows to be attached to a layout, but having all the floating windows connected to one layout would put fundamentally unrelated topics together.
As a simple example, if I want my Mark class Workspace (which I use with students) and my Ugaritic Workspace open (which I do not use with students), to see one on one side of my screen, and one on the other, in Logos these unrelated topics HAVE to be connected, with my Mark layout as a floating window in my Ugaritic layout, or visa versa. I truly don’t want these to layouts connected in anyway, but I need them to both be open. (As everyone knows by now, I normally have multiple Accordance workspaces open at the same time, all of which are intended to be segregated, since if they were intended to be connected, obviously I would just have them as tabs or independent sections of one Workspace, which can easily be done in Accordance.)
Like you said, “It sounds like the solution to your workflow would be for Logos to allow for multiple layouts to be viewed at the same time.” I think this is the only true solution.@Justin Gatlin, when you said “Kristin, have you tried playing with the floating windows in the free version of Logos? It really is just like having an additional monitor, just stacked on or beneath your current one. The only difference in the main window and the others is that only one has the tookbar that opens guides, documents, etc. Nesting them would not make them connected to each other, assuming that link sets iterate so new ones take unused letters and don't become connected to the letters in your existing layout.” Going back to my Ugaritic layout and Mark layout example, if I open one of these as a layout, and then open the other as a floating window, the other topic is now inherently connected being one layout. (On a side note, I am not on the free version, I have the full-fledged v.10 version which I bought specifically to make sure I could buy it before subscriptions came with the next version, as I really dislike subscriptions, enough to prevent me from using something with subscriptions).
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@Kristin A temporary solution might be to add keyboard shortcuts to your layouts so that you can quickly cycle between them. It's what I do.
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Hi @Mark Allison ,
Could you clarify this? Your comment makes it sound like Stage Manager on Mac where all the layouts are actually open, but in reality in Logos, the multiple layouts are all closed, and the only one which is open at a time is the on you are actively looking at. Correct?
Also, I have class soon, but really quickly, is there a way to view more than one layout at a time in the actual program? Is there a way to have my Mark layout and Ugaritic layout open at the same time with this key combination?0 -
No, you can't view them at the same time. You have to toggle between them with a keyboard shortcut. Not ideal, but probably the best you'll be able to do until Logos allows multiple layouts to be displayed simultaneously (I'm making that a feature request now).
https://community.logos.com/discussion/244753/feature-request-allow-for-simultaneous-display-of-multiple-layouts/p1?new=11 -
Hi @Mark Allison ,
Thank you for adding that as a feature request!! For sure needed, and the number one reason why I can't leave Accordance.
Btw, on the old forum it would show the people who had voted. When I went to your link I saw two people had voted, but with the new forum the votes on polls are anonymous. Is that correct?
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Yeah, it looks like they're anonymous, and I don't see any way to change it.
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Votes on polls are not anonymous unless the creator of the poll deems it to be so. However, votes on the new feedback system integrated into these forums appear indeed to be anonymous.
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Leave a comment; put +1 in it.
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Thanks @scooter, that's a great suggestion.
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