Logos Is Too Expensive
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David Parks said:
A silver to Silver upgrade without any new books would have made me happy.
Essentially, that is exactly what the crossgrades do. Check them out if you haven't, there are three levels of crossgrades.
EDIT: great, glad to help.
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They maybe expensive but what other Bible software offers that many resources,features and books?
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My impression is the Core crossgrade along with the L6 engine is significantly underpriced. It's a major step though poorly explained/marketed by Logos.
I'll probably get the Feature crossgrade for the LXX stuff, etc and then 'hide' the media stuff so Logos won't update it. (I'm on cellular.)
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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It's also good to check out the denominational packages. There are some nice surprises there. I was able to get Reformed Gold for the normal price of one resource I really wanted + the price of the Feature Crossgrade. With all the other good stuff included in it, it was a really easy decision to make (and I'm not even Reformed [;)]).
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Joel Reed said:
I appreciate all of the comments from everybody, even though most of them seemed somewhat bias.
(Kidding!)
I think the most quoted suggestion 'if you don't like it don't buy it' is probably going to to be the advice I choose to take.
Thanks for the response all the same!Should point out that last year about this time Bob posted that on average on a good year Logos makes about a 3% profit.
Maybe that's gouging. But I don't think so.Whoops, didn't check the date stamp. Sorry!!
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Wow, Wow, Wow! IF I had some sack cloth and ashes, I would repent in sack cloth and ashes for everything I said about Logos 6 being to expensive[:O]. One of the forum members directed me to the "Crossgrade" which I purchased. There are no words to express how amazed I am at the depth and practicality of the work that has been put into 6.0. I realize this is a business, (it has to be if it is to survive) but it is also obviously a labor of love for the kingdom.
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David, I am glad you were able to get into Logos 6 at a price you were willing to pay (and maybe even afford [:)]).
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Good for you David. Logos is certainly not the cheapest but it is arguably one of the best.
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David, I'd like to ditto all you said, from the biased but informed perspective of working here at Faithlife (after having used Logos as a pastor and police chaplain). It's been thrilling for me to witness hundreds of terrifically talented people collaborating in this grand project, under Bob's leadership. Almost like a modern Nehemiah experience, watching something massive get done for the glory of God and the service of His cause.
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I have to disagree. Good books are expensive, whether in electronic format or paper format. Without Logos I would never have had the theological library that I now enjoy. I owe Logos a great debt of gratitude.
Overall, I find Logos books to be less expensive than paper books, and much more valuable.
I am am rather cheap, and if I didn't think Logos was a great value, I would not have invested thousands of dollars over more than twenty years in Logos Bible books and software.
The great thing about our economic system, a product is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it - no more, no less. Apparently, Logos is not over priced, for I am still paying.
There are some books on my shelves now that I bought in seminary 40 years ago with money I earned by selling blood plasma. Those are the most expensive books I ever bought, but to me they are priceless. Books are a lot cheaper now.
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This thread is hysterical...seriously!
After reading it all, I have just two things to say:
First, I don't have much respect for people who post anonymously. Creating fake ID's to post? Seriously? If you can't take ownership of your words, then don't post them!
Second, no one forces anyone to purchase Logos . If you don't want to spend the money, or you can't afford it, don't. I'm sorry to boil all this down to that, but it really is that simple. It doesn't matter what other companies offer, and it doesn't matter what Logos charges for books. It matters if you are willing or able to pay the price. Logos is a company, not a ministry. What they charge is up to them. Whether or not you pay it is up to you. Plain and simple.
That's all I got...
Cynthia
Romans 8:28-38
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David Parks said:
Wow, Wow, Wow! . . . There are no words to express how amazed I am at the depth and practicality of the work that has been put into 6.0. . .
and THAT, my friend, is how the Logos addiction begins . . . [{] [;)]
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Cynthia in Florida said:
First, I don't have much respect for people who post anonymously. Creating fake ID's to post? Seriously? If you can't take ownership of your words, then don't post them!
While I agree that a person should be willing to take ownership of whatever he posts, I wouldn't attribute a person's use of an alias as a desire to remain anonymous. Sometimes it's a desire to express one's interest in something such as "Unix." Sometimes it's a desire to express a message such as "KeepSmiling4Jesus." I used to use an alias of "Polycarp666" which served two purposes: (1) My interest in the Apostolic Father Polycarp and a bit of humor in attaching the beastly number "666." As with many other things, I wouldn't immediately presume that I know why someone does something in particular.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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OK, George. 666 vs Polycarp?? Up till now, I had immense respect for you (especially how every year you seem to have a 39th birthday).
But Polycarp and the beast? I could have understood Papias666. Or even Papias1000. That would have made sense.
And Cynthia ... no offense, but I can guarantee you (since I used to do big data mining) that your text is associated with someone's database of you somewhere, somehow. And will remain for muchisimo years. So, you'd do well to write carefully, for someone's analytical pleasure years from now. In some other country.
EDIT: Oh wait. My apologies. You're posting anonymously. That's good.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Denise said:
EDIT: Oh wait. My apologies. You're posting anonymously. That's good.
If I was drinking water while reading this, my keyboard would be ruined [:D]
(Another bit of funny (in this thread and around the forum generally) is the way old threads are resurrected just so (like we say in my neck of the woods). I frequent another forum where necro-posting is strongly discouraged (as in moderators get on your case and in your face about it) so it's always a bit weird when it's done so casually here. Quite liberating!)
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Packages "too expensive?" Then don't buy a package. Download the free engine and buy books instead. It's worked for me for 12 years.
End of story.
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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Cynthia in Florida said:
This thread is hysterical...seriously!
After reading it all,
You read it all? That is impressive.
...Matthew C Jones aka Super.Tramp
Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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Denise said:
And Cynthia ... no offense, but I can guarantee you (since I used to do big data mining) that your text is associated with someone's database of you somewhere, somehow. And will remain for muchisimo years. So, you'd do well to write carefully, for someone's analytical pleasure years from now. In some other country.
EDIT: Oh wait. My apologies. You're posting anonymously. That's good.
Denise: Call me ignorant but I have absolutely NO idea what you mean. I'm serious. I don't know what "your text is associated with someone's database of you..." What is the implication there?
Further, when I was talking about anonymous posters, I meant people on this site, who have an identification (whatever that is), who switch to a different name to post things anonymously. I didn't mean what people choose to call themselves originally.
And then, the edit? I'm posting anonymously? I honestly have no clue what you are talking about...
Cynthia
Romans 8:28-38
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Cynthia from Florida said:
And then, the edit? I'm posting anonymously? I honestly have no clue what you are talking about...
I'm not surprised. Half the time I'm not sure what Denise is talking about either.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Which half, please.
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[Y][Y]Michael Childs said:I have to disagree. Good books are expensive, whether in electronic format or paper format. Without Logos I would never have had the theological library that I now enjoy. I owe Logos a great debt of gratitude.
Overall, I find Logos books to be less expensive than paper books, and much more valuable.
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Cynthia ... usually 'anonymously' means your identity can't be determined. There's many Cynthia's in Florida. It's not your real name. Now, whether a person creates multiple persona is a choice anyone can make. It's a choice Logos allows. Since the first is anonymous, the second is just as anonymous. Maybe the first one is bad, and the second one nice? Or visa versa? We've had folks that use the same account but it's multiple people talking ... again anonymously. Which one are they?
Maybe what you were mentioning is 'double anonymous'?
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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George Somsel said:Cynthia from Florida said:
And then, the edit? I'm posting anonymously? I honestly have no clue what you are talking about...
I'm not surprised. Half the time I'm not sure what Denise is talking about either.
Well, half the time I am not even sure what I am talking about. But somehow I find these forums addictive, and I enjoy the posts of nearly everyone who gives their time to answering questions or simply pontificating.
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All these posts are a hoot!
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Denise said:
Cynthia ... usually 'anonymously' means your identity can't be determined. There's many Cynthia's in Florida. It's not your real name. Now, whether a person creates multiple persona is a choice anyone can make. It's a choice Logos allows. Since the first is anonymous, the second is just as anonymous. Maybe the first one is bad, and the second one nice? Or visa versa? We've had folks that use the same account but it's multiple people talking ... again anonymously. Which one are they?
Maybe what you were mentioning is 'double anonymous'?
Thank you for the explanation. I understand now. On another forum I visit, when someone makes a second user name, they call it "anonymous," and so that is the term I used here. Clearly differing definitions of the term caused confusion here, as that is not at all what I meant.
FYI: My name really IS Cynthia and I really do live in Florida! I didn't choose a fun or interesting name like some others here because, well...I lack originality! [:D]
Cynthia
Romans 8:28-38
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Cynthia in Florida said:
This thread is hysterical...seriously!
After reading it all, I have just two things to say:
First, I don't have much respect for people who post anonymously. Creating fake ID's to post? Seriously? If you can't take ownership of your words, then don't post them!
Second, no one forces anyone to purchase Logos . If you don't want to spend the money, or you can't afford it, don't. I'm sorry to boil all this down to that, but it really is that simple. It doesn't matter what other companies offer, and it doesn't matter what Logos charges for books. It matters if you are willing or able to pay the price. Logos is a company, not a ministry. What they charge is up to them. Whether or not you pay it is up to you. Plain and simple.
That's all I got...
you're experiencing the part of these forums that is a little uncontrollable and somewhat perplexing at times: people. Welcome, even though you've been around a little bit, I see!
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Gee, Dan ... er Friedrich ... you've changed!
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Denise said:
Gee, Dan ... er Friedrich ... you've changed!
lol, wondering when someone would notice, especially in light of the thread. thanks, I feel somehow important.
I've been wanting to change that a long time. i don't like having my name all over the internet. Friedrich was a nickname by a college buddy, playing off my middle name but Germanicizing it because I used to live there. and NOW you know. thrilling detail and technicolor.
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Friedrich said:Denise said:
Gee, Dan ... er Friedrich ... you've changed!
lol, wondering when someone would notice, especially in light of the thread. thanks, I feel somehow important.
I've been wanting to change that a long time. i don't like having my name all over the internet. Friedrich was a nickname by a college buddy, playing off my middle name but Germanicizing it because I used to live there. and NOW you know. thrilling detail and technicolor.
And I was chuckling, too, because the photo kinda looks anonymousish. goofin' after a race. but few can tell because these pics are so tiny.
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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I think I will morph into Juanita!
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Cynthia ... that's interesting about 'anonymous'. I remember the day (maybe the year) that we all were surprised Unix didn't seem to be Unix. Finally, someone got brave and asked Unix if he was Unix.
Friedrich ... lol twice. Having spent time in Germany (I guess it's popular place!), your image looked just like a set of buildings in Bavaria. Friedrich? Yes, German. Maybe someone stole Dan?!
Juanita is nice. And easy to remember too.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Military also. 'For' but not 'in'.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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We also have an individual who posts on three separate accounts. Sometimes accidentally posting from the wrong account, deleting it, then re-posting.Denise said:Cynthia ... usually 'anonymously' means your identity can't be determined. There's many Cynthia's in Florida. It's not your real name. Now, whether a person creates multiple persona is a choice anyone can make. It's a choice Logos allows. Since the first is anonymous, the second is just as anonymous. Maybe the first one is bad, and the second one nice? Or visa versa? We've had folks that use the same account but it's multiple people talking ... again anonymously. Which one are they?
Maybe what you were mentioning is 'double anonymous'?
Lately our favorite Scandinavian has only been posting on two accounts.
When I started out here I used my full/real name. But it was brought to my attention that I didn't want that kind of attention as I traveled to and from some of the countries I've traveled to and from. a post attributed to me may bar entry in some more guarded places. I changed it to this. But frankly, its not much "cover". Though I haven't traveled anyplace in a number of years that would require that level of sensitivity.L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,
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A particular book costs $14 in the Logos store, but costs $8 in the Olive Tree Software and $8 as an ebook in Christian Book Distributors. Same ebook in all three stores, yet Logos is almost double the cost. It has definitely become a for profit business instead of a ministry.
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Agreed. That is why the only books I purchase from Logos are the ones that aren't available on Kindle or Wordsearch Bible. Nothing else compares to their core program so they have a monopoly on the market and this is what you get with a monopoly. If the prices were even close to comparable I wold purchase from Logos but such is not the case.
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James DeJong said:
A particular book costs $14 in the Logos store, but costs $8 in the Olive Tree Software and $8 as an ebook in Christian Book Distributors. Same ebook in all three stores, yet Logos is almost double the cost. It has definitely become a for profit business instead of a ministry.
Logos has never been a ministry, it's always been a business to provide tools for ministry; much in the same way Snap-on Tools provides tools for mechanics or bodymen.
DAL
Ps. I do agree that sometimes they get way out of hand with their pricing, though.
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James DeJong said:
A particular book costs $14 in the Logos store, but costs $8 in the Olive Tree Software and $8 as an ebook in Christian Book Distributors. Same ebook in all three stores, yet Logos is almost double the cost. It has definitely become a for profit business instead of a ministry.
The value of any given book in the Logos format is up to the user, but you need to know that when you purchase a book from Logos, you are doing two things: 1) Buying the book and 2) paying Logos for the value added features. When you go to a restaurant, you don't just pay for the two slices of bread, tomato, bacon, lettuce & mayo... you are paying for them to prepare it and keep the lights on.
When you buy a book from Amazon or CBD, they aren't doing much other than converting the publisher's ePub file to their own format (similar to Vyrso resources).
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alabama24 said:James DeJong said:
A particular book costs $14 in the Logos store, but costs $8 in the Olive Tree Software and $8 as an ebook in Christian Book Distributors. Same ebook in all three stores, yet Logos is almost double the cost. It has definitely become a for profit business instead of a ministry.
When you go to a restaurant, you don't just pay for the two slices of bread, tomato, bacon, lettuce & mayo... you are paying for them to prepare it and keep the lights on.
Alabama! FANTASTIC ILLUSTRATION!
Cynthia
Romans 8:28-38
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James DeJong said:
A particular book costs $14 in the Logos store, but costs $8 in the Olive Tree Software and $8 as an ebook in Christian Book Distributors. Same ebook in all three stores, yet Logos is almost double the cost. It has definitely become a for profit business instead of a ministry.
Welcome [:D]
Faithlife corporation has two eBook stores => https://vryso.com and => https://ebook.noet.com that would have the same eBook as Olive Tree Software, Christian Book Distributers, and Amazon (as provided by publisher so quality depends on publisher).
Faithlife corporation also has two resource stores => https://www.logos.com and https://verbum.com that have digital content with additional tagging plus future maintenance. Thankful for many free Logos and Verbum resource updates, which can include typographical corrections and improved tagging. An example of additional tagging is Bible milestones, which is useful for scrolling a commentary resource with a Bible OR using a Bible reference to jump to appropriate place in commentary. Thankful for Faithlife providing free Logos and Verbum resource when an eBook is converted.
Thankful for an incredible number of free books. Logos wiki has => Free Logos Books !!
For purchasing resources, prefer buying a bundle that has a lower average cost per resource.
Profitable businesses stay in business. Profit = Revenue - Expenses. On 1 Nov 2012, Bob Pritchett (CEO) included profit margin insight => http://community.logos.com/forums/p/58026/413124.aspx#413124
Bob Pritchett said:Jacques said:He feels they should be ashamed for this kind of profit-margin, it's not reasonable.
What would a reasonable profit margin be? What profit margin does your friend think Logos has?
For what it's worth, I got our third-quarter financials earlier this week. For 2012 so far, the Logos profit margin was just about 0.38%. (Not 38%. Less than half of one percent.
Now I'm not looking for sympathy -- we're fine. It's better than that most years, and the first three quarters of this year reflect a lot of investment in Logos 5 that hadn't yet generated any revenue. (That's what we're doing now!) I expect we'll end the year with solid single-digit profitability, and we've beaten that in the past.
But the point is, we have to sell something in order to be here to serve you into the future. It's insanely expensive to develop software, especially when you have to develop the same software on Mac, Windows, Android/Kindle, iPhone/iPad, Web (and now Windows 8 RT!) simultaneously. While offering free support.
So I'll take the criticism that we're always trying to sell you more books -- it's true, and it's the only way we get paid. Though, at every upgrade cycle, it does condemn us to a lot of impassioned forum conversations about the injustice of upgrade bundles. :-)
I do welcome your input on a solution. Maybe the "free software" concept was a bad idea? Few other products I have have been offering free engine updates -- in any form -- since 1995. I've bought Word, Excel, Windows, Mac OS, etc. many times in those 17 years. Should Logos just move to paid upgrades, and stop making so many books? (It might be hard to make that change after all these years, but it's an interesting question.)
I appreciate your investing in our product, and I hope that you'll continue to believe it has been a good investment. And I want you to know that we're working hard to serve you better AND ensure that we're here for decades to come to support the investment you have made. Input on how to do that is always welcome.
(My favorite idea... just convince every Christian in America to pay $3 per month... then we could offer everybody all the content, support, and continued maintenance for a very low price! The only trick is getting everyone signed up at once...) :-)
-- BobKeep Smiling [:)]
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James DeJong said:
A particular book costs $14 in the Logos store, but costs $8 in the Olive Tree Software and $8 as an ebook in Christian Book Distributors. Same ebook in all three stores, yet Logos is almost double the cost. It has definitely become a for profit business instead of a ministry.
James
Faithlife is a business. If you look at a book and it costs more than elsewhere, so it is. I have a whole stack of titles that sit on my wishlist. Periodically they go sale and maybe I can scrape enough together to put some of them in the cart.
But here's the other thing. Lots of books are bundled together at phenomenal prices in Logos. Maybe that book is part of one of those packages. If nothing else, go ahead and put that book on your wishlist. On the month of your birthday, Logos will send you your birthday code and you can pick it up for free! Anybody else do that? Nope!
I really wanted a resource last week and I put it in the cart. The price dropped $24!. Then I put an L7 package in. That did it. It took $90 more off! The resource I wanted and thought was out of my reach was free! And the package was less too at a price no one could beat.
One more thing. When I bought my first big package, I thought this will be really nice, but it's really out of my league and on payments too. And I told a friend. He asked me how much it was and I told him. He sent me a check for the full amount.
Faithlife might not be a ministry, but if you are in ministry God will provide for you.
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Cynthia in Florida said:alabama24 said:James DeJong said:
A particular book costs $14 in the Logos store, but costs $8 in the Olive Tree Software and $8 as an ebook in Christian Book Distributors. Same ebook in all three stores, yet Logos is almost double the cost. It has definitely become a for profit business instead of a ministry.
When you go to a restaurant, you don't just pay for the two slices of bread, tomato, bacon, lettuce & mayo... you are paying for them to prepare it and keep the lights on.
Alabama! FANTASTIC ILLUSTRATION!
Actually, that's a bad illustration because you don't pay $30 bucks for a slice of pizza just because the restaurant prepared it and wants to pay the bills. In fact, I pay $5 bucks plus tax and it includes a drink too. So don't get all excited and go blind refusing to see the truth that's right in front of your face which is: FL jacks the price up TOO much on some of their resources. Sorry to burst your bubble 😜
DAL
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DAL said:Cynthia in Florida said:alabama24 said:James DeJong said:
A particular book costs $14 in the Logos store, but costs $8 in the Olive Tree Software and $8 as an ebook in Christian Book Distributors. Same ebook in all three stores, yet Logos is almost double the cost. It has definitely become a for profit business instead of a ministry.
When you go to a restaurant, you don't just pay for the two slices of bread, tomato, bacon, lettuce & mayo... you are paying for them to prepare it and keep the lights on.
Alabama! FANTASTIC ILLUSTRATION!
Actually, that's a bad illustration because you don't pay $30 bucks for a slice of pizza just because the restaurant prepared it and wants to pay the bills. In fact, I pay $5 bucks plus tax and it includes a drink too. So don't get all excited and go blind refusing to see the truth that's right in front of your face which is: FL jacks the price up TOO much on some of their resources. Sorry to burst your bubble 😜
DAL
I'm sure this has been pointed out over and over again in this long thread. First, I have been to some pizza places that charge upwards of $30 a slice for Pizza. (I only went because I wasn't paying). Second, the $5 pizza place isn't prepping a pizza that crosses over with other flavors and styles of Pizza, in case you were wondering what they were like. Logos, on the other hand, spends countless hours in each book, doing cross referencing and tagging, things that many of the competitors don't do, don't do as much of, or don't care about doing (Kindle books, for example). When I pay $14 for a book on Logos that I could have gotten for $8 on Olive Tree or $5 on Kindle, I'm not just paying for the book, I'm paying for the ability to find a passage in that book as it relates to a passage of Scripture that I am studying or doing sermon prep with. Now, don't get me wrong, I love my Kindle books and there are many books that I do buy on Kindle instead of Logos because I don't care about the tagging or cross referencing etc. And Olive Tree is a great company and product (I used it for quite a while before I purchased Logos). However, in my personal experience, Logos saved me countless hours in Seminary as well as countless hours in sermon preparation and lesson preparation, as well as preparing for family worship and blogging.
Logos isn't for everyone, and if you don't have a serious need for it, don't get it and don't gripe about the prices. Yes, while Logos likes to consider itself as a ministry, ultimately, it is a business first. They do a lot of ministry work in aiding the church, however, they are a business.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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DAL said:
Actually, that's a bad illustration because you don't pay $30 bucks for a slice of pizza
First, my illustration wasn't about pizza... [:P]
The heart of my illustration is that you are purchasing a "value added" product.
At church yesterday I discovered that a new item had been purchased (for our purposes, it doesn't matter what it was). I was aghast at the cost! I knew the materials would not add up to $400, but the item was over $4,000!
- It isn't something we could make on our own. The item it replaced was made by good hearted people but was impractical to use... so it sat unused. Plus it gave us need for chiropractic service everytime we used it.
- The item has great value to us.
- The item was niche... There isn't a market for many people to produce the item. This means that there aren't many people making the product, nor are there many people buying the product.
All of these things are true with Logos. It isn't something we can make on our own. If you don't value the Logos system, there are other options... but you DO buy it (or complain about the price) because it IS of value to you! Lastly, it is niche. Many of these books by themselves don't sell many copies, but less so in Logos.
The company that makes the product I used at church yesterday has a right to make a living. I truly was aghast at the price... but if I were to go into business making and selling this item for a living, I would be jacking up the price too! If you sell MILLIONS of something, you can afford to have slimmer margins. If you sell only ONE of a thing for your living, you have to charge more.
Lastly: My lead off statement was "The value of any given book in the Logos format is up to the user." I have hundreds of Kindle books, but thousands of Logos ones. In more recent years, the majority of my purchases have come from Vyrso, where the price more closely resembles what you would find on Kindle... in many cases the same price. When a book is available on Kindle at a massive discount, or on Logos at a considerable markup, I decide: Do I need this book in my library? I use to purchase the kindle book if the discount was great... In most cases now, the decision I make is 1) buying in Logos or 2) not buying the book. The kindle edition is good for reading straight through, but little value outside of that. I want books in my research library.
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Oh well, Alabama, I guess I was just hungry. I had some chicken wings and a slice of pizza (Peperoni and shrimp) 🍕!
Anyway, I love my Logos library, don't get me wrong, but prices have been going up too high on some resources and the final product sucks. Even FL has admitted to the "Let's release it now and fix it later," type of deals. I'm still going to invest, but if WS has it cheaper and they even throw a freebie with my purchase, why not? Butler's ABE sold by Logos has the same quality as WS and that's because they chose to do a half-hearted job on it. In fact, the tagging and format of the preacher's outline and study Bible is way better and superior in WS than the Logos version AND cheaper too! Kind of makes you wonder about this whole "so many hours of tagging" nonsense. Anyway, time for a nap before going to burn off the wings and the pizza 😁
DAL
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