The Logos 8 Beta Program
The Logos 8 Beta Program
Superceded by The Logos 9 Beta Program
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Page Contents
- Development Cycle
- Understanding different versions
- How do I join the beta program?
- Reporting Problems
- Understanding update channels
- Understanding build numbers
- Frequently Asked Questions
Development Cycle
Every six to seven weeks, the Faithlife Corporation releases new 64 bit versions of Logos 8, Verbum 8, and Noet 8, with new/improved feature(s)/dataset(s)/interactive(s) and bug fixes. Before these new versions are released officially, Faithlife provides public Beta test releases for both Windows and mac OS (OS X). Typically Faithlife publishes several Beta releases over a period of one to two months. Each new release will have more features (some are exclusive to Faithlife Connect and Verbum Now), be more stable, OR be faster than previous builds – that means Beta releases can be buggy: can crash (sometimes a lot), some features might not work as expected, may corrupt (or destroy) your data, or have any number of other unfortunate, unforeseen consequences. Faithlife therefore recommends that you only install Beta version(s) on a dedicated testing account (although some brave souls don’t take that advice! – knowing some bugs exist for long time). Logos Speaks has links to many design decisions.
Towards the end of a development cycle, Faithlife Corporation will release builds that should be stable enough for daily use – a release candidate (RC). If no significant bugs are found in release candidate after a short period (a few days), Faithlife will make that release available to everyone (often referred to as ‘Gold’). If bugs are found, they’ll be fixed in a new release candidate (RC2), and the process continues until no more significant bugs are found. Service releases (SR) fix significant bugs after Gold release and complete development cycle for a Logos/Verbum 8 version. Logos 8.0 was the initial stable 64 bit release on Mon 29 Oct 2018, which requires Windows 7 SP1 or newer (e.g. Windows 10) OR OS X 10.11 El Capitan or newer Mac OS
- 8.11 and Newer releases will be supported on Windows 10 version 1809+, macOS 10.14 Mojave, or macOS 10.15 Catalina
- 8.9 and Newer releases can no longer import any user Libronix LDS document (Import Notes was obsolete as of 8.0)
- 8.1 and Newer releases need TLS 1.2 for online connection as of 10 Dec 2018
- 8.0 and Newer Mac releases need OS X 10.11 El Capitan or newer macOS: 10.12 Sierra or 10.13 High Sierra or 10.14 Mojave
- macOS 10.14.1 fixed a number of crashes on macOS 10.14.0
- 8.0 and Newer Windows releases need .NET Framework 4.7.1 on Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1, Windows 10 version 1607 or newer
8.17 | Beta 1 | Beta 2 | Beta 3 | RC 1 | RC 1 “Gold” |
2020 | Tue 15 Sep | Tue 22 Sep | Wed 30 Sep | Wed 7 Oct | Tue 13 Oct |
Build # | 8.17.0.0001 | 8.17.0.0005 | 8.17.0.0007 | 8.17.0.0011 | 8.17.0.0011 |
8.16 | RC 1 | RC 1 “Gold” |
2020 | Tue 25 Aug | Tue 1 Sep |
Build # | 8.16.0.0002 | 8.16.0.0002 |
8.15 | Beta 1 | RC 1 | RC 1 “Gold” |
2020 | Tue 16 Jun | Tue 14 Jul | Tue 21 Jul |
Build # | 8.15.0.0001 | 8.15.0.0004 | 8.15.0.0004 |
Understanding different versions
- Alpha version: A very early test version – missing some important features, and will probably have bugs. For Logos 8, Alpha versions were Faithlife internal builds.
- Beta version: A later test version – has more features, but will still have some bugs – can include non-backward compatible changes (so syncing stuff between Beta and Stable has potential to cause issues in Stable release).
- Release Candidate: A version that Logos developers hope is stable enough for daily use. Note the word ‘hope’!
- Gold Release: The final version that really does have all features stable enough for daily use – exactly the same as final Release Candidate.
- Service Release: After a Gold release, some bugs need fixing for stable daily use by variety of people.
How do I join the beta program?
The beta program is available to all Logos and Verbum users. The Logos Desktop Beta forum discusses beta issues, which can include interaction with Faithlife developers. Please read and heed IMPORTANT Beta Testing Information/Warnings
- On PC and mac OS, to join current and future beta releases, use command set update channel to beta
Recommended Beta tester behavior
Install the Beta in another User Account on your computer and use the Set Update Channel to Beta command. You will receive all releases on the Beta channel (including Release Candidate versions) whilst your other installation remains on the Stable channel.
Typical Beta tester behavior
Use the Set Update Channel to Beta command in your current installation. It is advisable to also set Automatic Downloads to NO (in Program Settings) so that you will be notified of the download and can choose whether to accept it. This allows you to check the Beta forum for details as you might not want to install a particularly buggy/unstable version!
Once a release goes ‘Gold’ you can a) do nothing and move directly into the next beta cycle when Beta 1 is released OR b) revoke the previous command with Set Update Channel to Default and receive Service Release(s) on the stable channel.
Reporting Problems
You should have logging permanently enabled because you will be expected to upload logs for diagnostic purposes to the Logos Desktop Beta forum , especially after a crash. For more details see Logos Windows Problem, Windows Troubleshooting, Logos Mac Problem or OS X Troubleshooting
Note Logos or other users may be able to recommend a workaround but be prepared to wait for the next beta (may be a week or two)!
Understanding update channels
Logos has two update channels, beta and stable. These ‘channels’ (actually RSS feeds) tell your Logos software when a new version is available. The stable channel contains details for Gold release and Service Releases only. The beta channel contains details for beta and release candidates (RC), may include service release (if no public Beta available). These tables illustrate recent versions in beta and stable channels:
Beta channel | 8.17 Beta 1 | 8.17 Beta 2 | 8.17 Beta 3 | 8.17 RC 1 | |
Stable channel | 8.17 RC 1 |
Beta channel | 8.16 RC 1 | |
Stable channel | 8.16 RC 1 |
Beta channel | 8.15 Beta 1 | 8.15 RC 1 | |
Stable channel | 8.15 RC 1 |
Beta channel | 8.14 Beta 1 | 8.14 Beta 2 | 8.14 Beta 3 | 8.14 RC 1 | |
Stable channel | 8.14 RC 1 |
Manually setting the update channel
- By default, Beta versions read beta channel for program updates.
- By default, all other versions read stable channel for updates. This means Release Candidates read stable channel for future updates even though they are released on the beta channel..
- You can receive Beta and RC updates with version newer than currently installed by using command set update channel to beta
- If you wish to return to default channel then use command set update channel to default
- If you wish to receive newer stable releases, then use command set update channel to stable (can use in a Beta version to skip future Beta and RC updates)
- If using Spanish as default language, use: establecer canal de actualización a ...
Finding your update channel
- On a PC, if you click help icon in top right of Logos, and choose About Logos Bible Software, you can find out which update channel you are using. On OS X, click Logos on menu bar (top left of screen), then click About Logos Bible Software to show version and update channel. If you have manually specified either the stable or beta channels, this will be stated next to version number. If you are using default channel for this particular version, then nothing will be stated.
A caveat
- Regardless of which update channel you are using Logos will only install versions of the software that have a higher version number than the one you are currently running. So if you have a beta version (say 8.1 Beta 1) and you are using the default stable channel, you will not receive a service release (say 8.0 SR-2) for the current stable version because it has a lower version number: e.g. 8.0 (8.0.0.####) is less than 8.1 (8.1.0.####).
Understanding build numbers
Version numbers in Logos look like this 8.0.0.0562. The 8 just means Logos or Verbum or Noet version 8. The 8.0 means this is the first (initial) major update. The third number 8.0.0 is the minor release, which has an alphabetic designator when not 0 (last used for Logos 5.2b 5.2.2). The 0562 means this is Logos 8.0 build number 562. Faithlife development resets the build number to 0 for each major release. The initial public 8.1 Beta 1 (8.1.0.0003) had 3 builds by the Faithlife development team. The 8.0 SR-1 release had 583 builds, which is reflected in 8.0.0.0583 version number.
Frequently Asked Questions
- What are the benefits of joining the beta program ? Provides you an opportunity to give feedback to Logos developers about new features, and can help speed up development, and give you some influence on how features are developed along with being able to use new feature(s) month(s) before everyone else.
- Is it safe to join the beta program ? If you rely on Logos 8 and/or Verbum 8 for sermon preparation or education classes, then you should make sure you have a Stable version installed on another user account or another computer. That way if you have a non-recoverable crash, or an important feature just won’t work, you’ll still be able to teach! There is also a risk that a Beta version will corrupt your documents (such as notes, collections, favorites, shortcuts, etc.), and that this corruption could sync to your Stable version. It’s therefore wise to back up your documents (especially if you have lots of notes) before installing any Beta version.
- Can I withdraw from the beta program ? Beta bugginess is not for everyone (fixing some bugs spans several Beta releases). However, downgrading in middle of a beta development cycle is difficult; see previous question for potential corruption risk. If want to downgrade from Beta to Stable version, need to completely uninstall Beta before installing Stable. Optionally can use scan command to identify, copy, and index resources from a Beta installation.